it's just a fact and you said nothing at all to contradict it.
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I did address your claim by pointing out that modern cosmology offers more than just the two options you presented. The fact that we donât yet have a complete answer does not mean we must accept a false dichotomy. Science is about exploring possibilities based on evidence, not forcing conclusions to fit preconceived notions.
If you believe my response âsaid nothing at all to contradictâ your claim, then either you did not engage with the points I made, or you are dismissing scientific inquiry in favor of a predetermined conclusion. Are you open to discussing alternative models supported by physics, or is your position fixed regardless of new evidence?
it's REALLY simple, if something is not eternal that means something had to come from nothing. This is SIMPLE logic.
Good day.
đđđ I love how you say âSIMPLE logicâ while presenting a classic false dilemma. Itâs a bit like saying, âEither you eat pineapple on pizza, or youâre an enemy of humanity.â Meanwhile, there are plenty of other alternativesâsuch as, you know, actually considering other scientific models.
Let me break this down for you:
1. âSomething canât come from nothingâ â Sounds intuitive, but modern physics has explored concepts like quantum fluctuations, vacuum energy, and spontaneous emergence. The Big Bang isnât just âNothing â POOF â Universe!â Itâs based on quantum mechanics and relativity.
2. âEither something is eternal, or it came from nothingâ â You present this as if these are the only two options, but modern cosmology offers others:
⢠Cyclic Universes (the universe expands, contracts, and repeats)
⢠Multiverse Theories (our universe is part of a larger âfoamâ of universes)
⢠Quantum Cosmological Models, which challenge our classical understanding of space and time.
3. âAtheists ignore science when it doesnât fit their narrativeâ â Oh, hello there, projection! Science changes its views based on new evidenceâthe exact opposite of faith, which clings to a fixed dogma.
4. âYou must give up your pride to believe in the Bibleâ â I donât know whoâs prouder: the person who says, âWe donât know everything, but we keep exploring,â or the one who says, âI have the absolute truth because a book told me so.â đ
At the end of the day, your argument doesnât seem interested in scienceâit seems interested in certainty. But science isnât here to satisfy our need for simple answers; itâs here to understand reality, no matter how complex or counterintuitive it may be.
But hey, if you prefer to live in SIMPLE logic, have fun with that. Iâll try to stick with reality. đđ
Cheers
Proverbs 26:4-5 King James Version (KJV)
Answer not a fool according to his folly, Lest thou also be like unto him. Answer a fool according to his folly, Lest he be wise in his own conceit.
