We had this phase where all of us privacy-conscious freaks thought WhatsApp was evil. And we were promoting Signal. But at the same time, everyone of us complained that no one in their circle could be convinced to use Signal.

Now, 7-8 years later, it has happened. I have more contacts on Signal than on WhatsApp. My family, my best friends and people I work with. More things happen through Signal daily than through WhatsApp. WhatsApp has lost in my circle, which stretches from Europe, to Africa, and to the US. It wasn't always easy, but one had to remain hard and consistent. One had to say, "If you want something from me, you have to contact me through Signal." It took years, but we finally won this little battle, alhamdulillah.

Anyone who continues to primarily use WhatsApp is either a toddler or a loser.

Take that as a template for how things that seemed unchangeable can indeed change, بإذن الله.

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https://youtu.be/FQd5bo9nIZs?si=bFe_Z53ZhcA_f-Xb i wouldn't use any of that. These ppl dont care about any of you or your data or privacy

I know, Matrix would be better, but baby steps. The one at least is better than the other.

In a recent interview, Tucker Carlson said the NSA hacked into his signal account… is privacy possible on a centralized app?

Right. I've heard that there are even several backdoors for govs in it. But baby steps. It's better than WhatsApp at least.

One must consider that Signal does not spread among the masses through the argument of 'security' alone (nobody cares about security and privacy tbh). Rather, it spreads through 'looks and works like WhatsApp, but is safer'.

Which decentralized chat service is usable enough for my family and non-techie friends to use?

Ya fair enough. Eventually something on Nostr maybe?

Saw an interview with Telegram founder, he seems like he is a principled man. But he’s still a single point of failure. Has to be a decentralized protocol.

open source project so whereiare the backdoors? And is Tucker or his brain trustworthy sources?

Not every part of the Signal infrastructure is open source.

the central servers that can't read e2e encrypted messages? they probably used israeli spyware pegasus which gives complete control over the phone.