You #Bitcoin breeders really confuse me.

Population decline is a natural consequence of deflation. As less and less people are needed, the value of kids decreases.

Natality follows market laws.

Wanna make a real difference in the world? Foster as many kids as you can.

Fostering is a net positive, you are taking a kid on bad trajectory and fixing their path, instead of just adding to the problem.

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Why would raising someone else’s children be preferable to raising your own?

If genetics is what you care about, then it's not about the kids, is it.

Idk what that means

He’s just trying to make the point of fostering the kids without parents could be as impactful as raising your own…I think 🤷‍♂️🧐🤔💭

More impactful. But yes. You get it.

It's means that children don't need to be genetically yours to be your own. And if you think they do, that says a lot about you.

What does it say about me exactly?

Mainly narcissistic tendencies.

I take it you are currently fostering many children then…

Not yet because only recently acquired enough space for it. But in the process.

Godspeed

That is malthusian and central planning nonsense. The value people assign to starting and growing a family has nothing to do with their kids impact or need in the economy.

“Hey honey, I see AI has automated a ton of jobs so I don’t think we need to have kids anymore”

The drop in natality in the west, which is were we see it the most, is largely due to the adoption of ideologies like feminism and cults like climate change. It’s a cultural phenomena not a result of deflation, which no modern country has experienced in centuries by the way.

Absent antihuman ideologies, deflation would incentivize more kids not less. People that adopt bitcoin and escape fiat debasement often end up having more kids than they would have if they had stayed in fiat land. Look no further than the decline in natality rates in Venezuela, which went from being quite prosperous in the 1950’s to poor due to hyperinflation in the last decade.

I was following your logic and then you go and "attack" feminism and climate change.

Which just goes to show my initial point. Lol

Only deniers of basic facts go down you line of reasoning.

Glad I can ignore you.

Feminism and climate change should definitely be addressed with logic and facts.

However, that is not what I did. I simply pointed out that those ideologies/cults are anti-human, meaning they result in fewer humans being born, not more.

This is not an opinion; it’s a fact. They openly acknowledge this. It’s not exactly a secret or something they are ashamed of; they actively promote it.

I invalidated your argument about deflation leading to declines in natality. The opposite is true. That is why you are deflecting

Attacked*

alright let’s try a different tack then. Venezuela was a petrostate financed by burning fossil fuels. If as you say the removal from Venezuelan oil from the market resulted in declining birth rates in Venezuela we have the crux of your disagreement.

If you think pumping excess carbon out of the ground is necessary for humanity to prosper and multiply then this is your view.

If women working say installing solar panels or wind mills alongside men to try to come to a sustainable balance then that is another aspect to your opinion.

Mothers have an innate insight into the resources required for raising children that far surpasses that of men. This point your trad view should acknowledge.

Feminism and climate change research are two fields that give voice to that insight and find ways to extrapolate resources available to the global atmosphere. Having that knowledge may decrease birth rates in the near term yet perhaps there is a means to manage a transition to a more sustainable future?

Pump more oil, make more babies does not seem to have much innovative thought towards the future.

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But my argument is not necessarily that the decline of venezuelan’s oil industry resulted in declining birth rates.

I just pointed to an example of a country that experienced declines in birth rates at the same time inflation was taking place. If deflation “incentivizes” decreases in birth rate then inflation should incentivize the opposite. But that is not the case

yeah. kinda weird measuring the carbon when it’s the oxygen that matters 🤷‍♂️