GM! Current state of Nostr in a nutshell πŸΆπŸΎπŸ«‘β˜•οΈβ˜•οΈβ˜•οΈβ˜•οΈ nostr:note1wnc0wqz6he5dqan58u2v9uccr53fgljtdxpj58653l3mdlz20vaq7l3vg7

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GOOD MORNING πŸΆπŸΎπŸŒ…πŸ’œπŸ«‚

Good morning πŸΆπŸΎπŸ«‚β˜•οΈπŸ’œ

GM

GM! πŸΆπŸΎπŸ«‘β˜•οΈ

Good morning my favourite doggo πŸΆπŸ˜‚πŸ’œπŸ«‚

Ummm hello…how did you miss my reply 😭😭

Hey! No idea, Damus did not fetch it for me. Good morning! πŸΆπŸΎπŸ«‚πŸ«‚πŸ«‚β˜•οΈπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œβ˜•οΈβ˜•οΈ

It’s likely my relay setup and not client issue. I may have too many and sometimes notes are not fetched timely πŸΆπŸΎπŸ«‘πŸ«‚

btw, where is my wine buddy Will these days πŸ‘€

He’s probably either coding or gaming. Lol. Me and e are out of town with the fam until next week

Now I see it! Growing pains of Nostr and how relays work! Case in point I guess πŸΆπŸΎπŸ«‚πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£β˜•οΈπŸ’œ

If nostr.build went away, so would 90% of our media lol

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nostr:npub1r7psmkr4zv93xnal8un6d8hvmpsn5jvhfzn3kk38rfcel6awznks7znspg Kilozap! πŸΆπŸΎπŸ«‚πŸ«‚πŸ«‚πŸŽ‰

Saved. I'll need this when my vacation ends. Thank you! πŸ˜‚

Que miedo 😨

Make a script to backup notes together with media, problem solved. Same goes for search, technically.

Search will happen, I don’t have time to work on it now, though I already prototyped it at least twice with great results.

It’s all about time, money and priorities. 🐢🐾🫑

how about you make a simple button that sends the user a text file to download containing all of the URLs of the user's data

i hope you and thet finances of the project are in good health, otherwise i would hate to be you when users lose access to their data

Accepting PRs here: https://github.com/nostrbuild/nostr.build

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for a php programmer this is less than an hour's work, please consider the children

It is definitely more than an hour of work to make it production ready. Prototype, probably 15min work for me, to production, around a day of work and testing. There are things that should be considered for security. Also, just getting a list of URLs is probably not gonna be useful for 99.9% of people. Ideally, the backup would be a nice downloadable zip file with all of the content, but this is also not an easy thing to implement while avoiding abuse and DDoS vectors (yes we are constantly attacked left and right). I did once asked here if there was an interest in archival storage but demand was 0 πŸΆπŸΎπŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

if i'm logged in, and i pull the entire body of content on the page, and scrape it for the link text prefix, i can get this list

you are talking nonsense, there is code already in the item view that does this, albeit progressively, you just need to pluck that piece out and remove the pagination and attach the action to a button

what will take hours - probably days - is writing a script that does nip-07 auth without being in a web browser

Why do you need the list of URLs? You can already get it without scraping, just open a dev console and you’ll have it.

I was talking not only about account holders, but all the media that is uploaded by the specific npub (free or not free).

If you continue with this type of attitude toward me or other people, just throwing out insults based on your uninformed assumptions, I’ll mute you and move along. I am talking with respect to you, I expect it to be reciprocated. 🐢🐾🫑

fine, i'll quit paying for an AI service i never use too

in fact i'm not using your service any more and gonna pay for a subscription with postimg instead

your business sense is zero bro

and you are forgetting the number one rule of customer service

ok, in technical matters, customer might be technically wrong but this is a programmer user and i'm probably about 90% right and i get this attitude from you

you know, i recommend nostr.land and nostr.wine but nothing has ever inspired me to recommend nostr.build, especially not you

https://www.idrive.com/pricing

i have already paid at least 4-5x as much as this on your service

i'm muting you also

Submit a PR or stfu

i'm a paying customer, i'm making a feature request, rainbow boy

Learn to communicate respectfully, grumpy old man.

Good morning!

Good morning πŸΆπŸΎπŸ«‚β˜•οΈ

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Is it possible to package up a relay that can be a subscription as in AWS or Azure, GCP or any provider? Has anyone done this? Or perhaps a curl deploy-nostr-relay.sh | bash that starts one up in digital ocean ?

It is possible, but the main problem is the underlying data substrate. You need something that scales well and horizontally and does not rely on a health of a single server. The problem, nobody besides one person that I know of, is working on it. It should also be economically viable, so not just using some expensive DBaaS 🐢🐾🫑

I would run a few relays if I could just spin up some droplets in DO

More relays is not the solution, client has finite resources and expensive bandwidth. 🐢🐾🫑

Please expand on this if you have time

Relay is just a DB, that’s all. You have a DB that has a JSON WS interface that client connects to. Having more DBs just increases the number of small DBs that run in the vacuum. If nobody writes to it then it is useless. 🐢🐾🫑

you can install a relay hub on any linux machine, docs here: https://github.com/relaytools/docs

Nostr.build could also stand in here. Get this project fucking funded. Actually gets me mad 😀

Foundation is not something people think of or notice, until it crumbles πŸΆπŸΎπŸ’œπŸ«‚

This is a big deal for some of us members of nostr:npub1s3ht77dq4zqnya8vjun5jp3p44pr794ru36d0ltxu65chljw8xjqd975wz. Server and library developer myself.

https://github.com/vnuge/noscrypt

Why? Why not just whitelist people you like on a private relay and make public relays all paid? How does that not decentralize and strengthen?

How do you onboard new people? With the invoice into their face? Do you also ask all your followers and follows to add your private relay? πŸΆπŸΎπŸ€·β€β™‚οΈπŸ€·β€β™‚οΈπŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

When he said more relay dev, us he saying there are not enough relays available for nostr? where do I get whitepaper doc about starting a new relat?

We have a service by nostr:npub10npj3gydmv40m70ehemmal6vsdyfl7tewgvz043g54p0x23y0s8qzztl5h that helps with relay hosting 🐢🐾🫑

I add trusted Npubs (people I enjoy and don't spam) to my private relay and send them a dm that my relay is open to them. So they add my relay to their relay list.

Looks like a pretty accurate architecture diagram

nostr is growing nice

Gm