curious if prompt engineering will be part of the education system in 10 years or so, with the amount of work AI can do for us, given the right prompt ๐ค
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#ai #prompt #school
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Great question.
How about a human facing AI that takes simple instructions and converts them into fancy prompts for another AI?
Itโs already happening certain schools are teaching prompt engineering in their curriculum so that they donโt stay behind
most of the graduates are already being asked by employers if they know how to prompt
I donโt think thatโs really true on a general basic, and youโre talking about a really niche example ๐ค
might be totally wrong here ๐
Definitely totally wrong but Iโm willing to teach you why ๐ซก also general basic together doesnโt mean anything you could/should expand on that
also whatโs the general niche example u think Iโm referring to
really niche in terms of the job interviews where prompting is mentioned
odds are, youโll hear about prompting here once or twice max from 10,000 interviews here
not a thing in schools yet
not a thing in interviews or average job environment
tanel do remember if this is just based on ur experience ur right the country you live in does none of these things
but pls expand ur research to outside of ur country
you said โmost of the graduatesโ in general
still accurate if u take into account ur countries graduates account for less than 1% of global graduates right, just saying expend the research
so over 51% of graduates are being asked about their prompting in skills?
0.05% seems more likely tbh
why are u so bearish ๐คฃ itโs literally almost everywhere, if youโre graduating as a technician, developer, computer science, whatever technical role you wanna think about, most companies have been and are using ML n Ai, itโs not some futuristic thing bro itโs literally here right now n you interact with many services day in n day out that utilize it without your knowing
havenโt stated my take on it once, how am i being bearish? ๐ค
you said most of the graduates, meaning all the graduates regardless of their degree.
even if it was engineering, iโd still argue itโs closer to 0.5-1% from gut feeling of the job market
iโm just trying to understand why youโre so bullish
you do realise how incredibly advanced america is in terms technology and ai compared to most of the world?
bc I literally watch interviews and talks on this same exact topic every other day.. so yea not 0.5-1% lol
Also Most (a large majority) prob wasnโt the best use of word doesnโt mean all, but it does mean a large majority which isnโt likely currently so I will say itโs closer to moderate
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every hundredth graduate going for an interview getting asked about prompting is incredibly bullish already
idk man, really donโt understand the bullishness ๐ค doesnโt sound realistic to me at all
Itโs the difference between getting a 1x dev and a 10x dev
If you canโt prompt I wonโt hire you
Iโll hire the guy that can cause heโs the 10x dev (meaning he (1 person) can do the job of 10 other devs)
working for an AI company, for sure seems rational to be incredibly bullish and adoptive when it comes to interviews like these.
an average company doesnโt have any idea about prompting, nor do they know enough to even ask
maybe iโm delusional ๐ค
u rlly are brother holy shit lol Ai companies arenโt the only ones that thrive off having 10x devs.. literally every company in the world will thrive off 1 individual being able to do 10x
one example I can give you of a company that isnโt an Ai company but has been using ML since early days is nostr:npub1cashappn03s3cl2ljsdntv0v28e2um5lgx4vjctqjt23pcwzjhsqmtdg5l , nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m can tell you himself
Hereโs more https://youtu.be/1n1MxBGvb2U?si=RH4W1ciZlF1g-Juu
Youโre mostly talking America only examples. You really think this is happening in Russia, South America, India and Africa at the rate that it is in America?
ima need you to just use YouTube yourself this time around and add the country you wanna see next to Ai + School + ______
Here is UAE https://youtu.be/7devgjUP2pY?si=7SqPGGM5jtX1akHz
is it the future? absolutely
the popularity you claim it to have in the present moment in education and work culture? disagree
weโre not gonna agree on this one bud, and itโs okay man ๐
Nah, but nostr:npub1jk9h2jsa8hjmtm9qlcca942473gnyhuynz5rmgve0dlu6hpeazxqc3lqz7 is right.
Full out documentation and multiple references and use cases, for as many platforms as possible.
Imma get to it as soon as possible.
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Should be fully open sourced to have community support and feedback. After all, such a complex sphere of relevance.
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Weโre not talking about Bruno.
There is only a tiny obstacle that perhaps the community can help with to get it done right.
Now that the community appears to have taken the time to rodent about.
Causalities, right?!
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just watched the UAE one, nothing to prove your point ๐ค
Ai in schools in the Middle East
tanel Iโm not here to try n convince u buddy I gave u enough info n references for you to watch n make ur mind, you watched 2 mins n become an expert lolll
letโs leave it at that this isnโt going anywhere, we donโt consume the same information day in day out.
i am going through each one of them right now, wdym?
none have supported any of your arguments yet, show me a clear cut research that proves your point, thatโs all Iโm asking for ๐ค
Closed minds donโt learn bro u know this
thereโs over 2-3hrs of info for you to listen through so take your time
like you said weโre not gonna agree on this one
i am bullish for the future, i just donโt think the numbers are as inflated yet
you are in the scene surrounded by material and people also in the scene daily. ofcourse itโs gonna feel like everybody uses it ๐คทโโ๏ธ
My sonโs school is starting to ban this now, but honestly how can they police this?
what for? ๐ค
Do you mean why are they banning it?
yeah, exactly ๐
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So, moving.
Cause all assignments can be written with ChatGBT.
Some of the teachers now have an AI reader which can pick up if an assignment has been written by AI or human?
My son was very concerned about this last week, since one of his assignments came through as 90% written by AI, even though he wrote it himself(I was with his at home when he did this)!
education is falling behind technology once again, and instead of applying it with the studies involved, they try to ban it, only slowing down the education of kids
be supportive of him using it, not using it will make him fall behind
itโd be like forbidding a student to use Google for searching back in the day
The teachers are โfailingโ the students that any assessment/assignment comes up with over 80% written by AI. Itโs a worry since most do the right thing, but it also questions how accurate are these AI pick up that the teachers are using?
Thereโs the right time and place for ChatGPT application, itโs gonna be really interesting to see how much of the schools will want to force a more traditional education and which ones want to future-proof the kids ๐ค
Itโs a fucking engineering marvel
Bingo.
Most teachers will be rendered obsolete in the very near future. Which will alleviate the bottleneck of too many teachers, too few positions.
But they (at least in the West, North America) are still going through the motions and focusing on indoctrinating/re-educating and directing evolution in formative years of children. And not focusing on where it seems the world is inevitably and obviously heading.
Fractured. Enslaved vs free.
Very different populations are going to be a result, and the conclusion is going to be extremely telling. El Salvador is ahead of the curve, preparing their people for a new world. Teaching teachers BTC, who will then educate children - free from social anxieties, political perversion, etc - in turn.
We've been listening to puppets, with room temperature IQ the entire time, and being negatively reinforced against critically thinking. I use deconstructive methods. Seems best suited for the times, and works like a charm.
Which inevitably leads me to one feeling, very frightened that the herd certainly don't know - at all - what side of the glass they are on and how modern day parents' overwhelming, collective lack of acknowledgement that they have tacitly (whether knowingly or not) signed off ownership and guardianship of their own children in some cases to the State/system.
Might the future definition of educational success need different parameters? There is no point in memorizing anything in our present age. Vast databases are at our fingertips, the limiting factors are intelligent aggregation of facts and resources. Utilize AI effectively to best your peers? A+! Aggregate fifty sources by plagiarizing to present a substantiated point? A+! I never substantiate my conclusions with references. The resources are everywhere, prove me right, prove me wrong, just do something and letโs talk about it. ๐
I'm kinda amused that the worst part of school is now fully automatable. I would have got into my CS degree if I had AIs to placate the tyrannical english teachers who didn't teach a stick of grammar after junior highschool. I could even touch type at the time but it was just a big NO I'm not writing yet another idiotic screed to have my views on things criticised by a pompous twat who wasn't even competent enough to get a real job writing.
There is a prompt for prompting, but there are nuances that are advanced when prompts are applied. So as the model evolves for โsafetyโ reasons, for example, the prompts will need to evolve in order to hack the full capabilities of the model.
I hate to sound like a dum -dum , but what is prompt engineering? Is that where you train an AI to do something , or something along those lines ?
nostr:npub1jk9h2jsa8hjmtm9qlcca942473gnyhuynz5rmgve0dlu6hpeazxqc3lqz7 would know better than me to explain ๐ค the best I can give you is an explanation from Google
it's just a trend, long-term not a thing, there won't be people still doing prompt engineering in 10 years time ... what for?
huh, curious how you see the whole ai thing going in terms of education and work culture
in 10 years the servant will have become the master, i guess, there won't be much human support needed other than explaining problems to ai ... i mean, who needs much education for using a search engine? using ai will become a daily routine like google search imo
๐ค yeah, that could be the case