So removal from App Store doesn’t necessarily mean removal from iPhone correct!?

Sooooo what I’m hearing is we needa onboard every fucking body in the next 14 days πŸ‘€

But um future updates how is that handled ? We grab the new update directly from website or directly from app ?? nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s

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Unfortunately, Apple eventually ends functionality of apps that have been removed. So eventually, it will still disappear

Unfortunately if that happens, we have to switch clients. But will said he’s removing zaps so that doesn’t happen

Seems like the logical thing to do rn until we can come to an agreement with them

We can always zap on snort πŸ˜›

Yeah also countless other clients on IOS have zaps but not the point

Don't negociate with terrorrists / apple

I think it means just no more updates. Gives me a reason why I want to jailbreak my phone now

It means Apple killed Damus. Without zaps, people won’t use Damus.

The truth is, if you’re on Apple, Windows, google, Android you’re captured.

What I’m saying is let’s say apple does remove Damus from App Store doesn’t remove it from our iPhones, we can still use zaps and everything will be cool, and maybe the distribution of future builds doesn’t happen on the App Store instead on the website or inside the app itself

Convenience really matters. We could also be pen pals and write checks to each and send them via the post office. πŸ€£πŸ˜‚

Wym.. what’s so inconvenient about clicking an update button on a website ? or having it send you an email with the update ? Or even easier having it update from within the app itself ?? seems pretty convenient to me man, idk I ain’t lazy like that

how will new users use damus?

There’s this thing called side loading apps basically can download straight from Damus website https://www.lifewire.com/get-apps-not-in-app-store-1999916#:~:text=your%20iOS%20device.-,Sideloading%20Apps,do%20things%2C%20but%20it's%20possible.

I understand this but , the real question is why? like why do we need to go through all of this? A simpler & easy solution should be available for all. Freedom.

What’s the solution ?

To make apple agree to use this as it is. not even proposing a fight , but it’s just a tips i mean how fucking hard that can be for people in power. ugh!

Android zaps still work with Damus

Sorry mean amethyst

Not entirely true. On any other of the major OS you can download binaries and install them to your system. This is a problem tied to the iOS app store monopoly, and the lack of user freedom regarding software installation.

99% of the world are not nerds. That’s the real issue. Always has been.

It needs to be dirt simple. One click. Autoplay, etc.

Freedom isn't easy.

I started using Damus way before zaps were implemented. We used invoices insteadβ€”and it worked. What I’m saying is, I will keep using it even if zaps are removed 😎

Agreed πŸ’―

Side loading may be possible. If it is banned there will be no way to update, even if you have it installed already. The store is Apple's, the phone is Apple's, so they decide. What a horrible decision by Apple. Feeling bad for my whole using friends πŸ«‚πŸ’œ

Sideload ..or we gonna use xcode.

That makes sense

Or maybe we can make our own app store , soon apple will be forced to accept sideload in EU.

I wonder how hard it can be to fork it

Is not that hard ..look at the pirated app store, they still exist.

Mhmmm built on nostr sounds so good.. nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft any idea how long does can take n how many devs

IMO ..a progressive web application, will be the easiest solution..and we can say #fuckyouapple

Start9 said that was the only solution idk

Yes ..and then #damus will be available on ALL devices πŸ˜‰

It’ll prob never happen Will doesn’t like web apps

I knew..but we have to think of mass adoption of damus, to be easy and convenient to use. Self uploading on xcode..is not for everyone, maybe then sideload is the solution.

Let’s see what he comes up with, there’s a couple solutions on the table 🫑

This is a lesson..we don't have to rely on apple, it cannot be trusted. ( speaking of my own experience in the past with my old apps)

Yeah this will definitely awaken devs to try and build a decentralize client marketplace for IOS hopefully, or something more innovative n cool that works n doesn’t rely on App Store

Snort

Don't onboard new plebs into an environment where they can't see any new updates. I hope they figure it out, but I would onboard new plebs to an app they may not be able to use or update.

… we don’t know it can’t be updated but sure let’s call it quits before anyone tries finding a solution lol

Not saying that, but I am saying consider that bad shit COULD happen. It took most of us more than 14 days to even grasp what is happening here, I'd hate for a noob to be totally lost in an upheaval.

App Updates: Toggled off

#Damus lives on

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