Nostr Web Client

It's https://lumina.rocks/. The whole time Olas was down, my feed was full of people complaining that they can't post anymore pictures, but you can post kind 20 image notes from lumina, nostr.build, Amethyst, and Jumble, just to name a few, and Derek even jumped in with an emergency replacement, and they were all working fine.

But, when Olas went down, the picture feeds stalled out, as everyone stopped posting, all at once. It's like when Primal goes down or etc. Nobody thinks, "Oh, I'll just use a different one...." And lots of the people who "take a break, waiting for Nostr to get fixed" don't return. Lose users, everytime, due to this extreme centralization.

We're too much like the Matrix protocol, where you can use any interoperable client, so long as it's Element.

Constant 7mo ago 💬 1

yes, well.....this is mostly user error though.

take nostr:nprofile1qqsyfq5nwvm97w68vvfgpu7x38rwmlxrt4vdmg8yng0npys40qdhxtspzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqgdwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkcynqmaw for example.

He came to Nostr 2 days ago and shared some pictures (they are amazing, go have a look). I informed him on the existence of kind20 and send him to Olas. Now Olas being shit, it did not work for him, but he found (as far as i can tell) Lumina all by himself, and started using that. I never heard of Lumina, neither had the jungle spirit btw.

Now he came from the fediverse and runs an IPFS-node (we can forgive him for both of those things), so he is knows his way around a computer lets say. Still, he figured it all out on his first day with a little bit of assistance, others might take some more time.

Now i am a big proponent to include multiple clients when ''onboarding'' people, to drive this point home immediately, so thats something ''we'' can do. And perhaps we should also stop recommending stuff Pablo makes, because he just leaves a trace of crappy minimal barely/not even viable prototype abandonware, which absolutely has its purpose if you ask me.

But we should also accept that the user base has to adjust to the paradigm, just as much as developers and everyone else in this world has to.

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Luke MacNeil 7mo ago

In my defense I set up two self hosted blossom servers yesterday - route96 and nostrcheck-server.

Both of them puke on large video uploads, so I guess ipfs is winning ;)

https://nostrfiles.macneilmediagroup.com

I like nostr a lot, but I’m OK with these sorts of projects. As it currently stands, this is not something that I would recommend to most people, unless I was willing to handhold them through it.

From a usability standpoint, I would probably direct more non-technical people to the fediverse, but that can change overnight. Lots of things here are very broken and key management is a new and unconventional paradigm for the general public.