I am trying to understand what you mean by them.
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Okay. An analogy. If someone kills my neighbor, and I use his death as a justification to attack a cop. I didn't "help" my neighbor. I used his death to justify my own violence. Rightly or wrongly.
I get the analogy. Thing is, it's not what happened, and he never mentioned the Palestinians. He was the CIA's guy in Afghanistan during the Russian invasion. When that was done, the CIA abandoned him. Then he gets disowned by the Bin Laden family. The guy had a bone to pick with a lot of people.
He absolutely did mention the Palestinians among other US led incidents in the middle-east. I have read a lot about him and his motivations. Maybe you just missed that one.
I did miss that one. But I don't believe Bin Laden had much to do with 9-11. I think he released a video claiming credit to get support in the Arab world after the Bushes has abandoned him.
In that analogy I "care" about my neighbor's death, because I use it as a grievance. Which is the first point I made about Bin Laden.
I responded to your post inferring that it wouldn't cause more terrorism. I don't think there's evidence that Bin Laden did anything because of the Palestinians. He said on camera that it was because of our occupation in Lebanon. More likely it was because he believed the Bushes had corrupted the House of Saud.
Osama bin Laden expressed strong grievances against the United States regarding its support for Israel and its policies in the Palestinian territories. In his "Letter to the American People," published in November 2002, bin Laden criticized the U.S. for backing the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestinian territories, which he described as "one of the greatest crimes."
Also, I implied that US involvement WOULD create more terrorism. I don't know how I wasn't being clear.
That's a statement against the Jewish occupation, more than the Palestianians. But ok, fair, he mentioned them. But I think we're getting bogged down by one example that can be argued from different directions.
The CIA created ISIS and probably Al Queda. In my view, the terrorism is a construct to require our ongoing presence in the middle east. It isn't a result of our being there. It gives us a reason to be there.
Chicken and egg. The CIA creates terror, justifies retribution, terrorism in US, justifies middle-east occupation. One of those things is always happening. I was simply stating "Occupying the middle-east" is directly causal to the vicious cycle no matter what point of the cycle we are in. In any case I think we are in rough agreement that occupying foreign nations is not good. Terrorism is not good. And the CIA being terrorists abroad is not good.
Completely agree with you on that. My concern was less for terrorism and more for the great likelihood that the Paelstinians won't be allowed back. Trump modified his position today, calling the relocation temporary.
My hope is that he's blocking Israel from occupying the Gaza strip and continuing their destruction of it. If that is true, I will wait to see if that's what's happening. The Palestinians deserve to live in peace.