Are dogs really this dangerous? I don't believe it

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Constant danger

I'm very scared!

I live in fear.

Well with all that fur to be shed I'd be too👀😅 I once met a woman brushing her big collie in the forest - and it was everywhere. The forest was carpeted.😖

That sounds relatable. We brush her frequently - outdoors is always better!! Also… that woman was living the dream 😂

When they are wild they are pretty dangerous, yes... personal experience... 8)

You’re only thinking of vaccinated chipped collared north american dogs

Yes they are very good boys 😍😊

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Meh. I guess it's because of that contact with them everywhere?

Apparently it's rabies

Bears not even on there?

You’ve never met a Mexico City street chihuahua 🫣

I don't know several of these bugs and am not naive enough to google how they look😬 I bet it's coming mostly from Australia😬

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Consider how many dogs and children there are.

I got attacked by a German Shepherd when I was younger, same dog almost killed someone else. I think it attacked more than 2 people in its life too. Consider that a factor.

Some dogs have rabies very dangerous

Keep your friends close and your best frenemy closer.

What is the point of existence of mosquitoes? Why not full extermination? I don't even think they have natural predators, nature would not be affected.

Heaps of different creatures predate on mosquitos & mosquito larvae. They are also pollinators

Like whom? Do they depend on mosquitos or is it just a minimal part of their diet?

Mostly minor, but there are some specific mosquito fish that the larvae make a sizeable contribution to the diet of and they're an important food source for dragonflies. That overall food would need to be found elsewhere though because they are a huge biomass. Also, as disease vectors they kill off a large number of animals. Without that culling there would be a population explosion at the top of the food chain and many of the middle creatures would go extinct from overpredation before the animals at the top started starving to death.

that number does seem high, i guess it's worldwide??

I worked insurance claims and dog bites were scary. sooo many cases of kids being bitten on the hands, legs, face, some pretty bad stuff. People don't talk about it but some say "there are two kinds of dog; those that have bitten and those that will."

but, fuck cats! dogs rule.

If that is worldwide then I would believe it. There are a lot of dogs and a lot of humans interacting every day.

Bro, they are basically wolves, so yeah.

Depends on the breed of dog

I've met many gentle and well-trained Rotties, Bull Terriers, German Shepherds and even an (illegal) Pit Bull.

And I've met so many fluffy rat-dogs owned by trophy wives that are used to getting away with biting anything.

Differences in prey drive and excitability between breeds plays a very small role. Its always the owners.

Completely wrong dude. Pit bulls and Rottweilers account for 76% of all fatal dog attacks.

Yeah, I trust the figures I've seen about as much as I trust COVID fatalities.

Police reports of the dog's breed are subjective. Media even more so. Even poodles have been written up as being pitbulls, here.

But if you have a link to a credible study, I'd like to read it.

dogs aren't the problem … their humans are

People specifically bred certain dogs to be more aggressive

You're both right imo :)

I'd add that some types of owners (more of the bad sort) gravitate towards more aggressive breeds.

Let’s use our common sense here and think about which one of these is more likely to kill a child. Pitbulls were specifically bred for aggression. Now dog fatalities are relatively rare only 72 occurred last year. That said 57 of those attacks were pitbulls of pitbull mixes. Genetics are more important than nurture. Look all you want and you will never find a report of a west highland terrier killing a person. Why? Because they simply don’t have the capacity. Pitbulls do. Now is your pitbull gonna kill your child? Probably not, but 50 families every year find out that their “well trained / sweet” pitbulls mauled their 3 year old to death.

If any bad guys are watching don't break in I have a very scary Rottweiler

DNA test or it wasn't a Pit Bull.

I do strongly agree, though, that size and capacity for harm matter.

Before the 2000s moral panic around "Pit Bulls", the #1 breed reported in dog attacks was the Labrador.

Labs are big enough to cause serious harm, and bred for prey drive. Popular and photogenic, though, so the moral panic fizzled quickly.

Before that, German Shepherds were the moral panic breed of the 1980s - but since fashion among bad people moved on long ago, the breed's reputation has improved.

Personally I don’t trust any dogs around small children.

Same. 100%.

And I don't trust small children around dogs.

IMO, dogs should live OUTSIDE in a kennel, and interact under supervision. But I grew up on a farm where this was normal.

Same. Even friendly dogs can curb stomp a kid being too excited/retarded

Nipping and biting is different than fatal dog attacks.

If a spoilt rat-dog bites me, it gets a boot. If it bites a baby...

That’s why I only have pet snails… oh, shit.

82 deaths by dogs per day around the world seems high.. but there are some powerful breeds out there

If "82 deaths by dogs per day around the world" is an accurate statistic, Jordan, then I'd say this is a surprisingly low figure. But that's mostly because I've lived and worked in regions where the dog situation is absolutely nothing like what Westerners living in "the West" are used to. I've just described why in a reply you'll find higher up in this thread.

It's probably just because dogs more closely live in people.

I miss in comparison human.

Man’s best friend are not dangerous…shitty humans that don’t know how to handle dogs are dangerous.

There are breeds that are inherently more aggressive than others but responsible dog owners understand this and do not let accidents happen. In other words, if you own a pit bull and aren’t 💯 sure that it is ok around kids you shouldn’t be bringing it around kids.

Probably in 3rd world countries where they roam free in the streets.

Yes this is the correct answer

Certain type of dogs sure.

If this is global, a lot of those deaths likely come from diseases transmitted by dogs like rabies, and from feral dogs attacking children.

Giant aggressive pet dogs mauling people is likely a very small percentage of that statistic.

Why don't we eradicate mosquitoes?

As a dog owner, I think that most accidents are not caused by the dog itself. Most happen because of dogs that have a high stress level due to their owner. Of course, there are breeds that are more easily stressed than others, but dogs that are dangerous on their own are relatively rare.

The sheer number of people living with dogs skews the results. Imagine if we all kept mosquitos as pets…

The end shows the second set being trained for aggression when the human resets them

That's only one set from the video.

There's no real details about the environment, care, or treatment of the litter; just an extreme anecdote. The post leans heavily on emotional appeal rather than evidence and ultimately amounts to circular reasoning: assuming genetics are solely to blame and then using the outcome as proof.

Do people raise show dogs to attack? How do we determine who is a good owner?

https://video.nostr.build/85abd93986c909954b539a0b154f4157e9f0962d60ef9763e0b712df400bb433.mp4

Relying on that video to argue that aggression is purely genetic is a classic anecdotal fallacy. At its core, this argument hinges on confirmation bias and a false dichotomy, pretending behavior must be either genetic or environmental, when in reality it’s shaped by a wide range of influence. Emotional appeals and isolated incidents don’t prove causation.

You sound like an LLM and didn't answer the question. How do we determine who is a bad owner?

I didn't answer because the question is yet another logical fallacy aimed to bolster the argument. I'll leave it to you to make that determination for yourself.

Pit bulls are responsible for the most fatal dog attacks. They were bred for generations for the purpose of dog fighting. Breeders will tell you they breed dogs for temperament. You are emotionally attached to the blank slate. Like the owners, you will never accept the truth.

https://www.instrideazawakh.com/post/breeding-for-temperament-digging-into-the-nuts-and-bolts

why is no one talking about freshwater snails 🐌??!!

true, dogs are dangerous heartbreakers.

once you let them in, you're lost forever.

It’s the dogs not the owners #unpopularopinion

In regions such as SE Asia, dogs tend to be problematic because large numbers are routinely rejected by their owners (perhaps they can no longer afford to feed them) and those dogs end up running free, which in turn means they end up living in packs; reverting back to the lifestyle of their ancestors (i.e., wolves). I once lived in a building that was near to an area of open ground where such a pack lived. So I've seen it all with my own eyes.

Rabies is not exactly commonplace in SE Asia, but there's no wild dog you can trust. You have to be constantly on your guard if approached by a pack dog. And many deaths due to Rabies are reported annually. I think they have a similar problem in Australia's Outback.

Pack dogs often loiter near to roads, and as a result, traffic accidents can be caused by them. I have known of local people riding motors-scooters, and being bitten by a dog simply due to riding past too close.

This is why dogs, in any meaningful survey, can and should be classified as dangerous.

And in North Africa, where I once worked, packs of Dogs were a known danger out in the Oil Fields. In such barren areas they become far more aggressive. You'd be a complete idiot to try and pet one of them!

They kill a lot of kids - especially dogs like pitbulls etc...

I was mauled and almost killed by a doberman/german shepherd when I was a kid.

Further research says rabies is the direct link especially in Asia which calls all of that into question. So, it would appear that it’s the transmission from a bite and not actually being mauled to death. If that’s true, then it calls all those figures into question.