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The first paragraph doesnt seem very compelling. Im relatively technically compitent and that doesnt seem straight forward yo me but maybe we can agree to disagree there.

The second paragraph however is the most compelling thing I have seen yet. Thank you for sharing that. But this is still a website on the clear net that obviously cant host csam on it. So a normal person running a node couldn't use that website to see csam if it was there. It would then only be easily seen with OP_Return on their node

Am I missing something or do you disagree?

nout 3mo ago 💬 1

For the first paragraph - The main argument here is for bitcoin node runners - and that assumes that you are running a node. And I think most node runners are comfortable with running bash one-liner.

For the second - When you are running a node you usually also run local explorers connected to your node (e.g. mempool space is built in in most node packages, like Umbrel), in the same way there are ways to run ordinals explorer locally.

The website that I shown is using it's own local bitcoin node to read from and if there is CSAM in inscriptions (nothing is preventing that), then that node also has CSAM and there is a chance that that clearnet website would show it, unless they implemented some strong system to do analysis and filtering of CSAM before it gets displayed.

It's important to note that CSAM is utterly disgusting, but nothing in this discussion seems to be making any difference (or even being related to) to actually preventing child abuse.

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Ferris Bueller 3mo ago

I pulled up my mempool instance in start9 and I'm looking at block 913983. I'm looking at the witness data and I do not see 6a or 6f7264 anywhere. The fact that you needed to tell me what too look for I feel like is proving my point haha. The witness data is crazy long and would overwhelm most people. Isnt that because its split up like you are saying every 520 bytes?

I run a start9 so I don't see ordiscan on their registry or community one. I didn't even know there was another one besides mempool.space.

And I mostly agree that is not stopping CSAM or child abuse for that matter. I just dont see why Core decided node runners should be required to relay it and store it on their own computers. Why do they want to give another place to put spam, that I would argue is easier to see for a non tech person? I don't want to facilitate spam because I just want it to be money. I understand the UTXO bloat argument but if the spam is in op_return it would cost more anyway so idk why they would use it unless to make a statement with something explicit or to attack the network.

Do you give any volitity to the idea that if somebody put malware in the OP_Return that it would trigger antivirus on nodes around the network? Especially cloud ones for example? I understand they wouldn't be executable but I'm hearing it could still set them off. Thoughts?