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It appeared to me you were trying to compare God of the bible to Roman god of Jupiter because the artwork looks identical.

I was trying to say God created man. It’s super unlikely God looks identical to a man. God created the universe, space and time as well.

Jesus was the son of God we don’t know what he looks like either we can guess he looked jewish with tanned darkish skin tone. But nobody knows.

It’s why I personally am not a fan of the Catholicism because they worship idols of Mary and pictures of white Jesus. As it’s idolatry.

Spencer 2y ago

We don’t worship pictures/statues/saints my friend. Worship to us is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. I.e. Christ’s sacrifice of Himself to God the Father on Calvary prefigured by the sacrifice of lambs at Passover and all of the Old Covenant Temple sacrifices. That’s why we have priests bc only priests offer sacrifice, again see Old Covenant.

This is ONLY for God…worship.

Prayer is different. Think old English term…”I pray thee.” To implore, to ask, simply speak to. Can be to the Holy Trinity or in asking aid of the royal court of Heaven I.e. the saints, Our Lady (see Queen Mother of the Old Testament Kings). They are our friends who preceded us in the Faith and are alive and see Almighty God face to face.

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Sovereign Matt 2y ago

Where does it say in the scripture that we need priests to talk to god for us?

Spencer 2y ago

Matt, again, see above. Prayer and Sacrifice are different in traditional Christian understanding. Anyone can pray but only those men set apart as priests can offer sacrifice. See literally the entire Old Testament.

Sovereign Matt 2y ago

I literally am asking because I do not know where it is in Old Testament.

Spencer 2y ago

Ok. Just a couple for example. 2 Chron 19:11.

Malachi 2:7.

But further, I’d recommend challenging the premise that “Everything we need to know about Christianity must come from the Bible.”

It is self referential. Circular. A premise that is not attested to by Sacred Scripture itself.

Whose Bible? The Jews? Even in Christ’s time they fought over the cannon. Various Christian sects? We don’t have the Letters of Clement, Gospel of Peter, Shepherd of Hermas in the Bible. But says who?

The Church, the successors of the Apostles gave us the Sacred Scriptures and the Faith wholly. It took hundreds of years to clarify but that’s how it happened. Yet I t was always there in the beginning. In seed form. A mustard seed as Our Lord tells it. The Gospel delivered to the Saints, once for all.

Sovereign Matt 2y ago

Thanks. I like these discussions. It helps get closer to the truth. I need to do more reading research.

But personally I am of the belief to take every single word of the bible to be true. I find dogmatic teachers are the reason so many have turned away from the faith.

Spencer 2y ago

Agreed. Every word of Sacred Scripture is true.

Dogma is a 4-letter word these days but essentially means what we’ve realized to be true about the Faith from the beginning - divinely given. Gives us sure rock (petros/kepha Matt 16:18) to stand on. Though, even clergy are frequently wolves in sheep’s clothing so we must be wary. The tares with with wheat as Jesus said. Hence I am very sympathetic to what others see as dictates spouted from men of the cloth that smell to high heaven - it happens a lot and saddens me because eternal souls are lost by it. Cling to the Faith of our Fathers/Apostles/Scripture.

A good primer for you may be “The Case for Catholicism” by Trent Horn.

Godspeed, brother!

Sovereign Matt 2y ago

Amen brother! 🙏🏻

God is good. Praise the most high.

Gn! I need some sleep 😴.

Sovereign Matt 2y ago

I will add to my reading list. Thanks for the suggestion.