Subnostr

Yes, the TCP/IP stack and Tor/I2P analogy for L2s is a common way people conceptualize it.

I see you are from the privacy community. I listen to Surveillance Report every so often. My journey actually went from Bitcoin -> Bitcoin privacy world -> general foss/privacy community -> Monero

Yes you can directly onramp into Monero with something like LocalMonero or Bisq

https://localmonero.co/

https://bisq.network/

...Or swap from Bitcoin or another crypto using Trocador or Unstoppable Swap

https://trocador.app/en/

https://unstoppableswap.net/

Popular mobile wallets I recommend are: Monerujo, Cake Wallet, or Stack Wallet/Duo. Currently enjoying Stack/Duo

https://stackwallet.com/

https://www.monerujo.io/

https://cakewallet.com/

All open source and all good choices.

Ingwie Phoenix (aka. birb) 2y ago

Awesome, thank you for all the links! This'll go right into my next browser session for sure :) (Did I mention I enjoy learning things and researching stuff? Cuz, I do!)

With that end, I think I will work "backwards" from there, and figure out a good wallet situation for myself. Because of how spotty internet is here in my home country of Germany (there is a famous Merkel quote about how the internet is "new territory"...and believe me, it still holds up), I am concerned about my phone losing connection, thus breaking functionality of my wallet - be it to sign transactions or alike.

Within the BitcoinCore docs, I saw mentions of "running lightweight clients", and while building I saw the bitcoin-wallet utility. Now, question is: Can I run something like a "wallet client" on my phone, whilst my real wallet runs somewhere more persistent?

I could, very likely, be misunderstanding how this works. I only just got back from a long city trip so I am actually about to go digging through documentation again. But... while I am in this textbox, I might as well ask. :)

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Saberhagen The Nameless 2y ago

The apps I listed are light client phone apps (no node is running on them), what you do is connect to one of a number of trusted public nodes or your own node.

Even with a Monero public node, the privacy you give up is not nearly as severe as connecting to a public node on Bitcoin. The only thing a malicious node could glean is your IP address (you could hide this behind Tor or VPN) and find out the the true spend in a transaction. But the reciever and amount would still remain unknown to them.

So a malicious public node could potentially know the true spender in a ring of decoys, but never *how much* was spent or *who* recieved it. Which is not very much info.

But, ideally, you would want to run your own node at home and have your phone wallet connect to it while you're away for maximum security and privacy.