Subnostr

Interesting. When I made my assumption about the L meaning layers, I had to think of the TCP/IP stack - and how I2P and Tor are overlay networks - being another layer ontop of TCP/IP. Possibly not the best analogy in this particular case - but I see now what you mean.

So much like Bitcoin, I have to first fund a Monero specific wallet. But I suppose there are services or ways to go between the two? I usually watch TechLore/NewOil's Surveilance Report on Youtube - and they do run a bumper about donations via Monero.

So say I had "some amount" in my Bitcoin wallet - would there be a way to go straight from BTC to Monero to send the guys a donation, or am I overlooking something?

Also thank you for your patience! :)

Saberhagen The Nameless 2y ago

Yes, the TCP/IP stack and Tor/I2P analogy for L2s is a common way people conceptualize it.

I see you are from the privacy community. I listen to Surveillance Report every so often. My journey actually went from Bitcoin -> Bitcoin privacy world -> general foss/privacy community -> Monero

Yes you can directly onramp into Monero with something like LocalMonero or Bisq

https://localmonero.co/

https://bisq.network/

...Or swap from Bitcoin or another crypto using Trocador or Unstoppable Swap

https://trocador.app/en/

https://unstoppableswap.net/

Popular mobile wallets I recommend are: Monerujo, Cake Wallet, or Stack Wallet/Duo. Currently enjoying Stack/Duo

https://stackwallet.com/

https://www.monerujo.io/

https://cakewallet.com/

All open source and all good choices.

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Ingwie Phoenix (aka. birb) 2y ago

Awesome, thank you for all the links! This'll go right into my next browser session for sure :) (Did I mention I enjoy learning things and researching stuff? Cuz, I do!)

With that end, I think I will work "backwards" from there, and figure out a good wallet situation for myself. Because of how spotty internet is here in my home country of Germany (there is a famous Merkel quote about how the internet is "new territory"...and believe me, it still holds up), I am concerned about my phone losing connection, thus breaking functionality of my wallet - be it to sign transactions or alike.

Within the BitcoinCore docs, I saw mentions of "running lightweight clients", and while building I saw the bitcoin-wallet utility. Now, question is: Can I run something like a "wallet client" on my phone, whilst my real wallet runs somewhere more persistent?

I could, very likely, be misunderstanding how this works. I only just got back from a long city trip so I am actually about to go digging through documentation again. But... while I am in this textbox, I might as well ask. :)

Ingwie Phoenix (aka. birb) 2y ago

I have found Surveiliance Report quite a while ago actually - I think I am watching them for one and a half, maybe even more, years now? Basically, I got sick and tired of all this data collection and started to look into alternatives - and naturally, ended up there!

With all the things I learned there and software I found with the pointers given throughout the shownotes, I now run LineageOS 20, MicroG, Magisk, AdAway and a few other things. No more Google. And prior to that, I sold my iPhone and Apple watch and completely detached myself from the Apple ecosystem. That was a full 180° because I had been an Apple user since... 2008? XD I'd have to check, but I owned an iPod Nano 5th gen when I did my first iTunes purchase with Click&Buy. I was there very, very long. So giving up on that ecosystem was quite a cut.