Are we finally getting a tiktok app? 👀

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I thought that someone was making one already, haven't heard of it since.

There's an app you can install, but this is a web app.

Nice project 👍

Yeah, nostr:nprofile1qqszj6zza2hdn0j6upngmgyluj92cpfpcjhctxk4glvnz3094s6vzlsprdmhxue69uhhg6r9vehhyetnwshxummnw3erztnrdakj7qg4waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t09uq3vamnwvaz7tm8wfjk2mnnda6kctnnwpskxef09v203q and I need a place for our dancing videos and nature shorts, so nostr:nprofile1qqsysrkp5agkgpsfphqy9h0kw7qw7v8jduagvn5rkstuq5a95cguswqpzemhxue69uhkwun9v4h8xmm4dsh8xurpvdjj7t5rjtqis taking pity on us girls. 😂

It's going to have albums and public messages, too, so you can send someone a link to a picture or video or album, you want to share.

Like, we could make a #Purplekonnektiv album, with a sub-album for each meetup, and collect everyone's 20, 22, and 22 events in there. And then PM everyone who attended.

It also has a pin board, already, where you can see your own images and videos, but also pin other people's (by creating a kind 20/21 wrapper for it or tagging it "gallery"). If you click on the purple pin, it goes to the original webpage or note.

You know me, nostr:nprofile1qqsyvrp9u6p0mfur9dfdru3d853tx9mdjuhkphxuxgfwmryja7zsvhqpzamhxue69uhhv6t5daezumn0wd68yvfwvdhk6tcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qgswaehxw309ahx7um5wghx6mmd9u2mk7fe. Go big, or go home. 😁

We're combining, Instagram, Twitter, Pinterest, TikTok, Immich, and PMs, so that it's a media-focused daily driver.

The albums will use the Nostr Drive kinds, so it will actually be virtual UNIX directories, where you can organize any events into folders. The default view-filter will be for media event kinds and any other events containing media that have been tagged.

It will look like a file explorer. I've prototyped this, twice, so it's ready for Prime Time.

Explain this Album thing to me like I'm the #noob I am. And I'll interop.

Albums are kind 30045 events, from NKBIP-04. Basically, UNIX directory folders.

https://next-alexandria.gitcitadel.eu/events?d=nkbip-04

Aight ✅

How do I query for Albums specifically tho?

Use the `c` tag in a similar way as for 30040? With `album`?

The "type" tag. We haven't shifted over.

Simplest would be to just fetch all of their folders, but filter their content for media.

You do you, but I would focus on lots of video editing tools, music offerings and ways for the video community to play with each others videos instead of multiple kinds. People that want videos don't like posts or pictures.

We're more picture people. The videos are not the main focus, for our client. This is an add-on, like Instagram adding reels. We will also include yaks.

We're going in the other direction, with semantic image search, pin boards, albums, PMs, an immich API and so on.

I'm fine, with leaving the video side open, for a different specialty client. But I think you can no longer have a picture-only client, if you want to offer a media-server frontend and general viewer. You have to handle all data types. Some other client might end up the preferred reels "viewer", and we just have to live with that.

Free flow?

Installed the app and immediately loved it because I can sign in with nsec.app bunker connection.

It's still read-only, but should also be write/sign permissioned, in the next larger iteration.

Wasn’t Olas and in fact Amethyst sort of doing it already?

Not to that extent.

Making a TikTok clone is a fool’s errand, even big companies like Reddit have utterly failed at it, despite having millions of users and large development teams.

I actually worked on Reddit’s TikTok clone for a short period of time, and the biggest problem that Reddit couldn’t solve was that you need extreme amounts of content and advanced user analytics so that the app is able to serve the right content to the right audience. TikTok’s UI is extremely simple, you just swipe up to play the next video, so if you don’t have a big base of good content the feed will be boring and if you don’t analyze user data extensively the feeds will not be personalized enough for each user.

Nostr especially isn’t suited for this type of content, as people on it are generally privacy conscious and don’t want to be tracked, but without tracking the entire concept of the app doesn’t make sense.

And I’m not even getting into TikTok’s custom video player that only YouTube managed to parry, Instagram reels player is much worse despite billions in funding and years of development.

Too be fair, if people are swiping on tiktok all the time, I don't imagine quality content. I imagine doom scrolling.

Reddit has the content for that.

No one is making video content for reddit, all they have is reposted videos from other platforms.

It takes a lot to drag people into the doomscrolling hypnosis, Reddit has text and image content good enough for that, but videos are a completely different beast. No one is doomscrolling on the reddit video player, not even people who are doomscrolling regular reddit.

Are you really so ignorant to believe that people don’t do doomscroll on Reddit?

What the fuck is wrong with you? and you have the audacity to call me a moron go fuck yourself.

Learn to read first

Learn to not call people morons you fucking little dick motherfucking prick. You really think I have time to fucking explain shit to your dumbass. Just because you failed at something. It doesn’t give you any ride to come out and be like oh we had all the money and we felt seriously go fuck yourself

Truth hurts, that’s why you got triggered by my comment

Not really not really at all I’m just fucking around and finding out because most people don’t tell people when they’re assholes. I’m just one that doesn’t have a problem with it so are you just a sexist or what?

Don’t take it personal, I just love insulting people over the internet

You proved my point. Why? Why insult

People online? Don’t you want to build a better internet?

Better internet for me is the one where I can call people retards if they act retarded

🤝

Hand shake with you sure 👍

You are literally just some miserable troll🤷. Start a family.

I’m going to blow your mind tomorrow

#Proofofwork @JOKERS

Nothing primal has done has blown my mind. Just saying. nostr:nprofile1qqs2klv3wpgz22yav9y6m84p40zvunzf24wlwxgy72gnds3r0p02dacpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgqgswaehxw309ahx7um5wgh8w6twv5q3camnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wvf5hgcm0d9hx2u3wwdhkx6tpds3mkdd5 I blocked you. Stop responding to my comments.

It got you triggered enough that you keep stalking me and responding to my every comment.

As soon as I go on vacation and start commenting, there you are in my replies telling me how you don’t care about me.

🤣 I just saw this because I looked at nostr:nprofile1qqsqdzwltpr635ehdzfd52tz947qlhq77x2c7j7yguwep9n258k2nus4lf9sv's comment. That's it.

You're a narcissist.

Didn’t you block me? Why are you still talking to me? You okay? 👌

It isn't suited for you.

She wants to build it, and is doing so in a way that will have an influence on all well-built other stuff going forward.

Those who can't, criticize. 🙄

I’m not stopping anyone from doing anything, why are you guys so thin skinned and with such a victim complex. Are my words really that powerful?

Naw. You're just such a debbie downer and utterly forgetabble most of the time.

I’m not even saying anything particularly negative, you just get depressed as soon as you see me. Sorry for mogging you so hard, it was never my intention.

Enough with your passive aggressive bullshit.

You aren't fooling anyone.

It's just that you seem to think you've got some special knowledge about the nostr protocol and, quite frankly, you don't. Primal is the dumbest use of TNP I've seen yet. Nothing you've got in primal is, in my opinion, good, interesting, or well done. So, I consider your opinion on anything nostr related to be exceedingly suspect.

Yeah, yeah. I'm not a dev. I'm just a rando on the internet. I'm no one that you need to bother yourself with. It honestly amuses me that we interact at all, since I'm sure that there is much better uses of your time. I'm an idiot that doesn't mind being belligerent on occasion when a boor pops in to input unwanted commentary. I don't seek out you or anyone else on team primal, and would prefer it if you stuck to your inane sandbox.

I never claimed to be some Nostr expert, I’m a professional mobile apps developer, iOS specifically. And even there I don’t claim to have any secret knowledge, but I certainly know more about it than 99% of you jobless losers.

And you are not special, I just love arguing with losers online, it’s like my hobby.

You still dont understand. That's clear.

Jobless loosers? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I know I'm not special. Neither are you. I build physical stuff. You can't do what I do. I can't do what you do. WTF does that have to do with this particular discussion?

You've missed the point of what

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🙄🤷‍♂️

Ignore the haters. Just build, people that boast about how good they are at something rarely are worth anything. Remember it's the most common thing that people say after they get fired: I built this company, it's going to fall without me

Heh? None of us are jobless. Odd critique.

Lol. He can't even make sensible insults.

Almost 0200. Way past my bedtime. Goodnight🌚🫡.

GN

Who gives a shit if you failed. Let

Others do what they want.

If tou don’t give a shit then don’t read my comments and don’t reply, you moron.

You misunderstand it’s exactly because I do give a shit is a reason I responded 🤣

Making Twitter clone is same .. and Reddit .. and Instagram clone .. People are here for NEW protocol or for Zaps .. there is nothing new in clients ...

And on top of that, TikTok makes it so easy for creators with so many in-app video editing features. I loved making content on that platform, but stopped because of privacy concerns

That is 100% one of the key features for TikTok success, but it is also the feature which would be easiest to copy or even surpass TikTok in. There are video editing apps that offer features that TikTok doesn’t have.

We've had one. Free Flow from nostr:nprofile1qqsx8lnrrrw9skpulctgzruxm5y7rzlaw64tcf9qpqww9pt0xvzsfmgprfmhxue69uhhq7tjv9kkjepwve5kzar2v9nzucm0d5hsz9thwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjme0qyvhwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnndehhyapwwdhkx6tpdshssfnq7m. But it's great to have choices!

I thought the amethyst middle button did this? Is it like a standalone version of that or different? I don't understand anything 🤔

Yep, it is the same kind

Yes, exactly the same sort of thing, but only videos and a web app.