I am a hyperbitcoinzation maximalist, I want mass adoption of both nostr and Bitcoin, you and I disagree on this

Lightning will scale because people will use custodians and they are gonna like it

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Fiat already scales infinitely with custodians. That's not how you win

Custodians that fail to be interoperable on lightning will not get far, i think that’s a pretty meaningful difference

CDBC fixes this better than custodial bitcoin ever could

Interesting opinion, you could be right actually. Although i still say the need to be interoperable with real lightning is a de facto practical check on custodians’ integrity, to some degree at least. If the ONLY available options were custodial lightning, you’d be correct for sure

Custodial LN is so easy and works perfectly. Who cares if there is trust as a trade off for fast / instant / near-free txs when 99.95% of an individuals wealth is protected behind impenetrable encryption that can’t be rugged.

Couldn’t we have multiple solutions? Why just one?

We definitely can but one thing is for sure monero ngmi 🫡😈

You aren't scaling Bitcoin usage with custodians. You're scaling IOUs.

You right, the whole world is gonna hold their own keys and run nodes, how stupid of me to assume otherwise

Ok, then why are you so worried that Monero doesn't scale?

What you're saying is also true. It still doesn't change the fact that custodians don't scale Bitcoin. It scales IOUs.

Funny, that this is exactly what bcashers said back in the day of the great schism and were ousted for it.

They framed it a little different, but I see we are now back at square one. This time Bitcoiners defending centralisation and custodianship.