My wife agrees—the 'baby pressure' is constant and overwhelming, especially from family members. No one has ever asked me when we’re having babies; it’s always directed at her.

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Women don't "opt out" of babies. Some of them just aren't having sex with a man whose babies they desire.

Industrialism has fragmented the household, first taking men out of the home, then taking women and children out of the home.

Preindustrial life is not one we should try to go back to, but retrieving a preindustrial household structure is the best of all worlds. A structure where the household is the economic base and where whole families are involved in the life of the home and productive domesticity, and where both parents are involved in child rearing. This is more possible for people to achieve now that it has been in at least a century.

As an aside, I get what you are saying circumstantially, but caution you against the postindustrial, feminist, and fiat thinking that women "give up all of their humanity" to have children. That is a false and ahistoric perspective, as well as contrary to a woman's glory.

On a practical level women can still be productive and active members of society while being mothers.

While I was dating, I was very picky.

I had no desire to be a mom with a husband who babysits. I wanted a father to my children!

When I met my now husband, he talked about wanting to live off of passive income in order to be able to stay home with his kids, to be able to drop everything and go on adventures or simply play with them whenever they wanted. To be involved in homeschooling them.

I needed less than 68 days from the first date to know I had found someone amazing and worth going into a life long covenant with, and married him on that day!

Mom's never have to give up everything to be a mom, and some women's highest desire is to be a mom, but there's always more to life. However, those of us who want a more rounded life can totally gave that, if we pick good men who wants to be dads!

Make being a dad cool again.

But also, women have a huge role in saying what she wants, making deals instead of just complaining, telling him why she wants certain things and how they contribute to her.

If you tell a man how he can win with you, and praise him when he does those things, he'll wanna do them without you ever needing to ask again, but it's okay always good to still ask, as you're inviting him into intimacy.

Thank you!!!!!

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It's full of fathers around but they you need to respect them and not treat men as objects that bring money and have no rights..women do not want babies because it's hard. Because they need to be responsible and adult and stop acting like teenagers. Very few want that.

I don't think any reasonable man would ask a woman they loved to give up everything. If they did dump them. Children and family become the priority but there's plenty of room within that for more, fiat makes it hard tho. Women are terrified of becoming unappreciated housewives but men are terrified of marrying a cold disloyal feminist. Somewhere is the middle is fine.

Women have always participated in the world. It has only recently become a thing to only consider activities that you get paid for as worthwhile. Children don’t occupy women to the exclusion of all else. Kids are not a shitty deal. And kids grow up. Then you can still do all the ambitious stuff.

Who the hell wants to work? That's insanity and no way to live. The goal should be to work as little as possible, grow and raise a healthy family, and relax as you see fit.

Shitty deal? Give up all that they are? You take pride in this selfish psycho deception? We are talking about perhaps the greatest aspect of life, literally the manifestation of fulfillment, and this chick is out here taking pride in demanding "MOAR". You should be shamed

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