A lot of people, including some really well known ones, cite the figure that the U.S. has to roll $9 trillion in debt over the next 12 months, as though it’s a disaster.

Sometimes they assume the average interest rate is spread over the full Treasury debt duration evenly, including from years ago.

But in reality, most of what is maturing is short-term debt, which will have similar interest rates as it had over the past couple years, and mostly the same holders will refinance it. Only a minority is longer-term debt, meaning lower-rate bonds will mature and get refinanced by higher-rate bonds. Not a giant deal.

I’m first in line to talk about debts, deficits, and interest expense becoming a problem. I even have probably the best-known single meme about it. So, zooming out, yes it’s a major deal.

But most of the time when people cite the gross refinancing numbers over the next 12 months, it’s a flag that they’re unfamiliar with the subject, and getting caught up in alarmism.

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What does the meme mean?

A sign that someone is not who they say they are. Or in this case, basically a flag that someone is talking about macro without understanding what they're saying.

Scene Explanation:

This specific moment takes place during the tense basement tavern scene. The character shown from the back raising his fingers is Lt. Archie Hicox (played by Michael Fassbender), an undercover British officer posing as a German soldier. He is ordering three glasses by holding up three fingers — the index, middle, and ring fingers, which is not the German way to indicate the number three. Germans typically use the thumb, index, and middle finger to show “three.”

Why This Is Significant:

This subtle hand gesture gives away that Hicox is not actually German, alerting the suspicious SS officer Major Dieter Hellstrom (seen facing the camera). This leads to a deadly confrontation shortly afterward. It’s a pivotal moment where a small cultural detail unravels the entire undercover operation.

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You know what really shows how „smart“ those are who justify Trumps madness with pulling ahead pain to refinance lower??

Think about it: the same people say that they will massively stimulate the economy once the debt is refinanced. As if the market wouldn’t anticipate that!

The whole argument is so bogus and just shows to what lengths people go to defend their poor decision on the ballot

Thanks Lyn. Good take.

Thanks for sharing your expertise. It’s easy to get caught up in discourse and feel a certain way. Happens frequently to me.

Does nostr have a Ilm bot one can tag and ask questions about the current post?

I’ve got questions and it sure is convenient to simply ask grok..but staying here is ideal.

Loving the experience of so many nostr apps and capabilities, though always searching for great resources to learn more without significant effort.

If the occasion arises, and a recession ensues that brings down the 10Y towards 3.5-3.75%, wouldn't it make sense to increase the amount of refinanced debt towards longer duration? Could that alleviate some pressure for the Treasury going forward?

Does it make sense that Trump is crashing yields in order to refinance more cheaply?

Part two: Isn't there a case for the govt to never even try to repay its debts by bailing out of fiat into Bitcoin? Hence, reset.

I’m in this and I don’t like it

Yes! But it’s still an extra risk isn’t it? Of course if yields now fall then that has the upside risk of being able to refinance at lower rates (presumably with longer duration, and presumably that’s part of the plan to subsequently devalue the debt in real terms). If yields stay the same then the situation remains the same. The downside risk is that we see higher yields forcing higher interest expense and the debt spiral accelerates?

I appreciate your work. Your book changed my life and got me into bitcoin, which has since not stopped revealing the real world to me. Can’t buy that.

Lyn do you answer questions from the chat?

As an update to this post from last month, Q1 2025 had less interest expense than Q4 2024.

Treasury notes and bills of about 2 years or less are reinvesting with lower interest rates, while Treasury notes and bonds of 3+ years are reinvesting with higher rates.

Interest expense is going to remain elevated as long as interest rates remain elevated, but the "Treasury has to roll $9 trillion in debt this year" narrative was so overdone.

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Much needed clarification that I was not aware of. Thank you for that. 🙏🏼

As an update to this post from last month, Q1 2025 had less interest expense than Q4 2024.

Treasury notes and bills of about 2 years or less are reinvesting with lower interest rates, while Treasury notes and bonds of 3+ years are reinvesting with higher rates.

Interest expense is going to remain elevated as long as interest rates remain elevated, but the "Treasury has to roll $9 trillion in debt this year" narrative was so overdone.

nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzp64suatdx2uqhn2xfu7cgjuqgqcrqadp864uxkv6wckf43atj860qqswexs5lh82d8r96mjkhqn8ly8y6atas2fcs2e029t720f0dcgqy8se307g3