herein lies the problem. democrats and republicans have gotten so used to using race and gender as a way to trigger emotions instead of solving real problems.

democrats say 'minorities are persecuted', republicans say 'immigrants are going to steal your jobs' - and both triggers angst and madness among people.

But are anyone talking abt market reforms and social reforms in terms of business creation, skillset development, improving quality of education and reducing cost, equitable healthcare ? Nope. That's the hard work. The real work.

Conservatives, mostly midwest were screwed over because of over-capitalism right wing policies in the 80s and 90s. Individuals who ran businesses would rather globalise it than pass it to them. Today, these same individuals blame migrants for taking over the conservative jobs. And people believe it. Stockholm Syndrome ?

Democrats - same shit Create war. Create the perception of American heroes who go to war. who benefits ? who suffers ? Why do they need student loan forgiveness program, when the real problem lies in how expensive and difficult education has become ? Who benefits from education fees, wars, pharma ? Same shit.

Trump had zero substance. But got everyone to bend over backwords while saying "thank you trump" lol. So cringe to watch.

If America picks trump or DNC, its dystopian state in the making - we are all watching it real-time. And its really sad.

That, and these political rallies should not have been at the largest bitcoin conference. Bitcoin is hope and power to the people.

There are 2 situations where people’s value, principles and integrity are tested the most :

One is when they have significant access to resources (wealth, power etc) and the other is when they have no access at all.

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agreed

gosh -i don't even know what to say. I liked RFK's speech, but better if it wasn't at the conference. People would have accepted it better too. And quite frankly it should be irrelevant to bitcoin adoption.

Where are the bitcoin entrepreneurs, new innovations and use cases? Where is the focus on global adoption?

these guys just want to see the pump and dump, and treat bitcoin like wallstreet. Sure, sell some poor people's salvation stories and milk it out them - classic global oppression 101. they playin' it so dirty!

Sadly, people fall for it again and again. Sigh

any new bitcoin innovation or global use cases shown at the conf? other than nostr of course

this was from RFK jr's speech yesterday. while i disagree on the largest bitcoin conf turning to a political rally which defeats the fundamental principles of bitcoin as permissionless tech, nor can we gauge what happens after being elected, this speech was excellent.

It showed that he understood the bitcoin ethos and surprisingly answered the many questions put out here on nostr, on market and social reform. Also very refreshing not to hear a bitching war or emotional triggers by presidential candidates amidst some opponent tease - the entirety of the speech was sound knowledge and passion for the people.

Won't be surprised if he has been checking nostr out and listening to the feedback here. give it a listen

Governments have no business knowing your business

it's beautiful

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that's so sweet

This is interesting. My thoughts on relay went from an electromagnetic switch - to channels - to independent servers - to everybody seeing everything, and I still have not fully comprehended the technology nor the potentials of it.

On relays as independent servers - i assumed this was the case but the gossip concept enables discoverability no ?

On networked relays /nodes - i get your point that the error rate and chances of failure can increase. I presume this also has direct access capability but nostr:npub1nlk894teh248w2heuu0x8z6jjg2hyxkwdc8cxgrjtm9lnamlskcsghjm9c can correct me on this.

On client proxy model - i’m guessing this would be the easiest and would cater to the largest of adopters.

Is it possible for people to switch between general access and private access ? In this manner, general access can have client proxy model, nodes, gossip mode

And in private access, its private relays to whom or where they post and only those who are accepted to read that relay can access it and write on it

I don't know if this is already available but I am guessing general access and private access has to happen independently /asynchronous .

I don’t know enough so feel free to correct me, and anyone who wants to step into the discussion are welcome!

lol this thread is hilarious. you are forever young, Kat. I think the bigger question is - right now and in the next 6 months - who is nostr for ?

the likehood of early adopters are

- bitcoiners

- those who struggle with freedom of expressions in their countries and

- those who struggle with freedom of expression on centralised systems.

When we zoom into these people are, their behaviours, lifestyle, interest and condition of living - we would understand better the ease of adoption.

Only then we can find a middle ground between what's sacred to nostr and what is appetizing to them.

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It seems to ease up the concept of everyone owning a relay by breaking down accessibility based on the level of processing required and needs of users. I don't know enough but there are some context in this conversation and you can speak to someone directly

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hahah ok, i forgot about it. some mining company bought a lot of bitcoin a while back. but market makers will be on standby waiting to dump it for sure, this is just warm up lol.

Rumors has it trump might make bitcoin as asset announcement and might spike up. People tend to fall for this, market is emotion driven.

It's like that Plato's allegory of the cave analogy. Satoshi gave this permissionless tech gift to the world. But people are so used to being chained up in slavery that even when freed, they look for a master for approval.

its super sad but hoping it will remain peaceful. thanks for speaking up. love your memes.

oh boy, what happened? i pop in here every now and then and there is always some kinda drama lol

Love the indie style and DIY ethos of alternative rock for transforming the music scene and expanding direct engagement with personal and innovative expressions. It broke away from the centralized-controlled scene and redefined grassroots, community-driven culture. And just like that, Nostr is alternative programming and all of you are truly the rockstars here. A big shout out to all Nostr devs, builders and creators from all walks contributing to Nostr. Looking forward to all the bitcoiners, future bitcoiners and just about everyone else that you will be bringing on to Nostr this weekend. This is a peaceful revolution ❤️

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loving the vibe! good luck and have fun to all of you!

you both are adorable. Keep rocking it!

perhaps. i need to study the privacy aspect more. but it would be great if this shifts the dynamics of all taking on the open source route, more models spread out. thanks for the great insights, appreciate the thought exchanges.