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What if it's not as complicated as it seems? even the randomness of a block in bitcoin the longest chain and will be the most reliable for mankind. accidents are not random. you remember the past like everyone else... but you don't know the future, the future is the evolutionary development.

ΠΎΡ‚ΠΊΡƒΠ΄Π° появилась пСрвая Ρ€Π΅ΠΊΠ° Π½Π° ΠΏΠ»Π°Π½Π΅Ρ‚Π΅?

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9999 Ρ‡Π΅Π³ΠΎ??? просто Ссли это Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ 9999ΠΊΠ³ Π·ΠΎΠ»ΠΎΡ‚Π° Ρ‚ΠΎ Π½ΠΎΡ€ΠΌ)))

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100% Ρ‚Π°ΠΊ ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ Ρ‚Π°ΠΌ имССтся Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Ρ‚ΠΎ Π²Π°ΠΆΠ½ΠΎ) ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ ΠΌΠΈΠ½ΠΈΠΌΡƒΠΌ масса)))

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сколько всСго Π±ΠΈΡ‚ΠΊΠΎΠΈΠ½ ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ΅Ρ‚ ΡΠΎΡ…Ρ€Π°Π½ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ Π±Π»ΠΎΠΊΠΎΠ² ?

Π΄Π°Π²Π°ΠΉ логичСски. ΡΡ‚ΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΠΎ сколько Π΅ΡΡ‚ΡŒ физичСских носитСлСй ΠΈΠ½Ρ„ΠΎΡ€Π°ΠΌΡ†ΠΈΠΈ. Π½ΠΎ всвязи с Ρ‚Π΅ΠΌ Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Ρƒ ΠΊΠ°ΠΆΠ΄ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ свой диск всС Ρ€Π°Π²Π½ΠΎ Π² Π±ΡƒΠ΄ΡƒΡ‰Π΅ΠΌ придСтся ΠΊΠΎΠΌΡƒ Π²Ρ‹ΠΊΡƒΠΏΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ Ρƒ ΠΊΠΎΠ³ΠΎΡ‚ΠΎ диск с Π½ΠΎΠ²ΠΎΠΉ ΠΏΠ°ΠΌΡΡ‚ΡŒΡŽ. Π° Π·Π½Π°Ρ‡ΠΈΡ‚ ΠΊΡ‚ΠΎ Ρ‚ΠΎ ΡƒΠΆΠ΅ Π½Π΅ смоТСт Π΄Π΅Ρ€ΠΆΠ°Ρ‚ΡŒ копию Π±Π»ΠΎΠΊ Ρ‡Π΅ΠΉΠ½Π°.

Π° это Π³ΠΎΠ²ΠΎΡ€ΠΈΡ‚ ΠΎ Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌ Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Π² ΠΊΠΎΠ½Ρ†Π΅ ΠΊΠΎΠ½Ρ†ΠΎΠ² ΠΊΡ‚ΠΎ Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΠ½ Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ Π΄Π΅Ρ€ΠΆΠ°Ρ‚ΡŒ ΠΎΠ΄Π½Ρƒ ΠΎΡ€ΠΈΠ³ΠΈΠ½Π°Π»ΡŒΠ½ΡƒΡŽ копию Π±Π»ΠΎΠΊ Ρ‡Π΅ΠΉΠ½Π°. Π»ΠΈΠ±ΠΎ появятся Π½ΠΎΠ²Ρ‹Π΅ Ρ‚Π΅Ρ…Π½ΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠ³ΠΈΠΈ ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€Ρ‹Π΅ позволят ΡΠΎΡ…Ρ€Π°Π½ΡΡ‚ΡŒ Π½Π° физичСском носитСлС большС Ρ‡Π΅ΠΌ помСщяСтся Π½Π° ΠΏΠ»Π΅Π½ΠΊΠ΅, ТСстких дисках, ΠΈ Π΄Π°ΠΆΠ΅ Ρ‚Π²Π΅Ρ€Π΄ΠΎΡ‚Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½Ρ‹Ρ…. Ρ‚Π°ΠΊ ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ обьСм ΠΈΠ½Ρ„ΠΎΡ€ΠΌΠ°Ρ†ΠΈΠΈ записываСтся Π½Π° Π°Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌΠ½ΠΎΠΌ ΡƒΡ€ΠΎΠ²Π½Π΅, Π° Π²ΠΎΡ‚ новоя тСхнология ΠΏΠΎΠ·Π²ΠΎΠ»ΠΈΡ‚ Π·Π°ΠΏΠΈΡΡ‹Π²Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ ΠΈΠ½Ρ„ΠΎΡ€ΠΌΠ°Ρ†ΠΈΡŽ Π½Π° Ρ„ΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΠ½Π½ΠΎΠΌ ΡƒΡ€ΠΎΠ²Π½Π΅, ΠΈΡΠΊΠ»ΡŽΡ‡ΠΈΡ‚Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎ для сохранСния самой ΠΈΠ½Ρ„ΠΎΡ€ΠΌΠ°Ρ†ΠΈΠΈ Π²ΠΎ Π²Ρ€Π΅ΠΌΠ΅Π½ΠΈ, Π½Π°ΡΡ‚ΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΠΎ Π΄ΠΎΠ»Π³ΠΎ Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΎΠ΄Π½ΠΈΠΌ Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΈΠΌ диском ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ½ΠΎ ΠΏΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠ·ΠΎΠ²Π°Ρ‚ΡŒΡΡ нСсколько ΠΏΠΎΠΊΠΎΠ»Π΅Π½ΠΈΠΉ. Π° Π΅Ρ‰Π΅ Π½ΠΎΠ²Π΅Π΅ тСхнология ΠΏΠΎΠ·Π²ΠΎΠ»ΠΈΡ‚ Π·Π°ΠΏΠΈΡΡ‹Π²Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ ΠΈ ΡΠΎΡ…Ρ€ΠΎΠ½ΡΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΈΠ½Ρ„ΠΎΡ€ΠΌΠ°Ρ†ΠΈΡŽ Π½Π΅ просто Π²ΠΎ Π²Ρ€Π΅ΠΌΠ΅Π½ΠΈ... Ρ‚Π°ΠΊ ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅ΠΌ ΡΠΎΠ·Π΄ΠΎΠ²Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ Π½ΠΎΠ²ΡƒΡŽ Ρ‚Π΅Ρ…Π½ΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠ³ΠΈΡŽ ΠΏΠΎ ΡΠΎΡ…Ρ€Π°Π½Π΅Π½ΠΈΡŽ ΠΈΠ½Ρ„ΠΎΡ€ΠΌΠ°Ρ†ΠΈΠΈ. ΠΎΠ±ΡΠ°Π»ΡŽΡ‚Π½ΠΎ всю. Π΄Π°ΠΆΠ΅ Π”ΠΠ½ΠŸ.

Replying to Avatar Lyn Alden

One of the crazy things about AI and robotics is that in the year 2025, most people still don't use Roombas or other robotic vacuum cleaners.

They're useful in many contexts, but they're not clearly better across most metrics than a human with a vacuum cleaner yet. They've been out for a very long time, gradually improving. And that's one *very specific* task with pretty clear visualization requirements and floor mobility requirements and pretty low safety thresholds with high repetition levels, and yet that market isn't dominated by robotics yet.

That's an example of why I continue to view white collar computer-work AI as being *way* ahead of in-the-field blue collar robotic AI in terms of competing with human jobs.

The moment where it's a joke to buy a human-powered vacuum instead of a robot vacuum, rather than a debatable trade-off, is kind of the canary in the coal mine moment for consumer robotics. We can't even nail that yet, but once we do, it's kind of a floodgate moment, considering how long that task has been in the works for, and it will probably quickly expand to other areas following that moment.

That's kind of my basic test for robot hype. Yes, they're getting better and better. Yes, they do backflips now. Yes, it's a big deal. But in-the-field blue collar skilled work is a really high bar, and we haven't fully cleared the "vacuum carpeted areas of the same house floor area over and over" stage of that yet.

Everything is kind of hype until that stage is fully breached. Then it's off to the races.

What's your view of that heuristic?

Π²ΠΈΠ΄ΠΈΠΌΠΎ Π΅Ρ‰Π΅ Π½Π΅ врСмя))) Ρ‚Π°ΠΊ ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ это просто ... %

Π²Ρ€Π΅ΠΌΠ΅Π½Π½Ρ‹Π΅ ΠΌΠ΅Ρ‚ΠΊΠΈ употрСблСния Π½Π°Ρ€ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΈΠΊΠΎΠ²? ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€Ρ‹Π΅ ΠΈΡΠΏΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠ·ΡƒΡŽΡ‚ для Π΄Ρ€ΡƒΠ³ΠΈΡ… Ρ†Π΅Π»Π΅ΠΉ? Бпроси Ρƒ Павла Π”ΡƒΡ€ΠΎΠ²Π°... ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ ΠΎΠ½ Ρ‚Π°ΠΌ Π² Π•Π²Ρ€ΠΎΠΏΠΏΠ΅ оказался))) Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Π΅ΠΌΡƒ Π΄Π°Π»ΠΈ ΡƒΠΏΠΎΡ‚Ρ€Π΅Π±ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ...

гравитация Π²ΠΈΠ΄ΠΈΠΌΠΎ отсСиваСт алкоголь ΠΎΡ‚ Π²ΠΎΠ΄Ρ‹))) ΠΏΠΈΠ» Ρ…ΠΎΡ‚ΡŒ Ρ€Π°Π· Π±Π΅Π·Π°Π»ΠΊΠΎΠ³ΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠ½ΡƒΡŽ Π²ΠΎΠ΄ΠΊΡƒ???

ΠΎ Π²Π΅Π»ΠΈΠΊΠΈΠΉ Π΄ΠΎΠ»Π»Π°Ρ€ Ρ„ΠΈΠ°Ρ‚Π½Ρ‹ΠΉ... Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ ΠΆΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ Π½Π΅ Π΄ΠΎΠ»Π³ΠΎ

посмотри Π½Π° ΡƒΠ»ΠΈΡ‚ΠΎΠΊ))) ΠΎΠ½ΠΈ Π΄Π°ΠΆΠ΅ Π²Π²Π΅Ρ€Ρ… Π½ΠΎΠ³Π°ΠΌΠΈ ΠΏΠΎΠ»Π·Π°ΡŽΡ‚)))