Tried tagging as many BTC/XMR users as I could, but there are quite a bit đ
#Monero #Bitcoin #XMR #BTC
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nostr:npub1pcf3fu5upfjwcdnevuw9nk467e24jnsu56aasufrvm36c966je8s2hv373 where did all the monero people go? Are you all in your own secret relay? Come out and vote!
Seems theyre still mostly on Twitter and Mastodon, but there is a good little faction on nostr. They'll see the bat signal eventually đ #Monero
What about you QnA? Anything you use no one has mentioned yet?
Aegis, Cryptomator, Obtainium, Molly, Vinyl, Torchie
Glad you guys are on here đ
We need more BCHers on Nostr đ«Ą
Wtf no way? Heres a few more from...someoneđ
Sommer do you have a monero address posted anywhere? So we monero goons can "zap" you
Sorry for late response! Sent! đ
drop an xmr address đ€ I got you for a coffee or drink to wake you up bruv â
I'm not overheated, to me, it is just discussion. I'm not getting nasty or calling anyone names. Not angry with anyone either.
Notice his reaction to your benign and reasonable comment. Anything threatening to his belief and he reverts to accusations and calling you a shitcoiner.
Coinjoins are great, I use them when I use bitcoin. If bitcoin increases to be on par or better in privacy to monero, with no serious tradeoffs, I wont need Monero anymore. Until then...
I'm still here. Discussion only ends when you want it to. You are the only one making claims about me making stuff up and mind reading my beliefs of satoshi.
Layer 2 does make several compromises. You are either dishonest or ignorant if you insist there is no trade-off.
Dormant implies they will eventually be used again. They wont. They are lost coins and are effectively (not literally) the same as removing them from circulation.
If you manually verify and tally entire utxo set of bitcoin everytime you audit, I will concede it is effectively different. Otherwise, there is in practice, no difference as relying on a monero node for sound supply. Yet to find a bitcoiner who takes advantage of bitcoin's transparency and does this.
Range proofs
https://sethforprivacy.com/posts/dispelling-monero-fud/#you-cant-audit-the-monero-supply
Bitcoin supply is not stable. It is constantly dwindling because of lost or burned coins. 21 million is theory not reality. Bad for price discovery and stability.
Range proofs assure this inflation bug is not the case. Bitcoiners love espousing transparency, but never take advantage of it by manually verifying. They just trust a node to correctly audit, exactly as monero.
Building on a second layer is already a compromise. You give up final settlement. You create centralized nodes. And now you have most lightning users giving up custody to use it. Shame.
Bitcoin lacks fungibility because it isn't private. When it comes to a digital public ledger, privacy and fungibility are inseperably linked. An ideal property of money is fungibility. You audit Monero the same way as Bitcoin: by running a node.
No, I've already told you I don't think Satoshi was an idiot.
Lightning is a centralization prone, non-settlement second layer, with subpar privacy, that most use with custodial wallets. Satoshi created bitcoin. Satoshi didn't create lightning and nothing about it in the white paper. Are you saying Satoshi was an idiot?
Previous ecash failed because of centralization (byzantine generals problem) and was easily shut down. Monero uses the same innovative concept of decentralized consensus as Bitcoin so no clue what you are talking about.
I have and use both. Pros and cons to each. Different goals, different tools. Monero is an IQ test and an honesty litmus for bitcoiners.
We can acknowledge Satoshi was intelligent, or even a genius, without thinking he could forsee every single thing, or that he was a god, or a first iteration was perfect. That doesn't mean we think he is an idiot.
"A p2p electronic cash system"
Monero is a better digital **cash**. Private, fungible, faster, cheaper tx fees.
Bitcoin has been better at preserving value longerterm, but that wasn't the original cypherpunk goal for ecash.
Yes, the same way a hammer is the #1 tool for every job
Or the same way competing brands and social media platforms don't exist