I make it a point to try and always zap anyone who comments on my notes no matter what. Engagement and conversation is valuable.

Fiat mining this week is going unbearably slow after last week's Nostrich time. I miss my family.

Kinda both tbh, it’s even a zoom substitute because you can record your room in high definition too. It’s pretty dope

You can't borderwallet your stack into the afterlife. Maybe you pass it down, and your sats will be a forgotten number in someone else's wallet.

What will remain are the actions you took, the words you shared, the lives you touched, the people you connected with. Proof of work isn't all measured in sats, the most value we can ever partake in is communication.

Well said.

With so many zaps flyin around every which way, it can feel a bit inadequate to send a like or just comment with no sats attached.

But it's up to each of us to know where we are in our journey to financial independence, and if zapping is not an option right now, it's important to save those sats.

These are the kind of decisions that bitcoiners by and large encourage and respect. Far from being inadequate, saving sats you can't afford to spare is admirable. And we can't admire you properly if you don't engage.

So comment away, like notes to your heart's content, and enjoy the engagement and especially the zaps you may get for them. That's what this is all for.

💯 While we don't want to be stuck in old toxic habits or fiat mindset, isn't expecting every human interaction and expression to carry some monetary or quantifiable numeric value exactly the same thing as being played by an algorithm?

We found ourselves in the place we were because technology manipulated us into behaving inhumane to each other for the profit of others. Nostr has been a breathe of fresh air because we all started acting like humans again. So let's not try to repeat history and force monetize the human experience.

Doesn't always have to be either or... Sometimes I zap AND like AND comment.

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That's what I'm talking about! We're here to jam it, my friend!

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I think it's easy to see likes as an evil holdover because they were used in a manipulative way by legacy algorithms.

Well yeah, like every. Single. Fucking. Aspect. Of. Everything. As Merdellow said....there's no point in gaming likes here.

Onlyzaps has become an extremist cult in a way, where people overcorrect so far in one direction they demonize random things that remind them of past bad experiences. Show me on this doll where the 👍 hurt you.

My opinion on it remains the same as when the debacle began. Likes aren't valueless, they just have no value to people who don't value them. Value is perceived, if you don't appreciate small gestures or social niceties then I think you're kind of a snobby dick head, but it's your right. And I respect your ability to shut it off, as long as you respect my ability to partake in what equates to a smile or wave.

Everybsingle like my friends and followers leave has value to me. Is it as valuable as a zap, a reply, a boost? Of course not! But I also have no expectations that people are going to pay me for a comment. I'm happy when they do, but I don't see it as the baseline for human interaction.

There seems to be a real disconnect between people who read “value” and think money, and those who think “connection” or whatever other metric adds joy and quality to one’s life.

Money is not the only thing people value. Being heard can be valuable. Not feeling alone can be critically valuable. Intellectual debate can be valuable both for individuals and the society at large.

My entire premise is that likes express a different kind of value, which money *cannot* substitute for.

I enjoy having the option to do both. Sometimes I like, sometimes I zap, often I send both. And each variation expresses something different. I see having both as one of the killer features of Nostr - it’s a more granular and expressive way of showing appreciation.

Let’s pull on this idea of the reach of 121 people vs a 21 sat zap…

The only reason that your “reach” is valuable is because it is a way for advertisers to monetize you. They have everyone conditioned to want to get the biggest audience they can so that advertisers can put their ads in front your huge audience.

This model incentivizes gaining the biggest audience, which is not the same as providing actual value to people. It appeals to people’s most base desires for attention and it is very easy to spin up bots to dole out likes to fake an audience to capture the ad revenue.

The 21 Sats, while tiny in terms of USD value today, represents a portion of the entire global #Bitcoin network that is protected by POW miners. Actual energy went into mining that 21 sats, and that is now being exchanged for value. There are only 21 million Bitcoin, so it is much harder to fake the exchange of a sat than a like.

This is V4V 💜🤙

The people saying “likes” haven’t tried living without likes/reactions long enough to break their habits. Zaps/sats all the way. Likes are garbage.