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Pro Gun. Anti War. Truss Designer by trade. Self Taught Software Developer. Hardware enthusiest. Node runner. Live your life in service to others. #nostr only since Block 775261. Father of 2. Developing a nostr relay: https://github.com/0ceanslim/grain Contact: https://happytavern.co/contact

I don't know how to be more specific than I am being. Bitcoin as a whole is not money. Bitcoin is a network. And the base currency of that network is bitcoin. And yes Satoshi designed it to be a peer to peer money system.

Satoshi created a perfect system for peer to peer payments.

Bitcoin is a ledger in a distributed p2p network, bitcoin is the currency of that network.

Well yes but they're arguing a fiat economy would beat a bitcoin one because they can export more. Akin to China vs US. But it's apples to oranges because they both have their own fists.

"Spend and replace" just read as produce more than you spend.

If you are spending more than you're producing you are losing money over time.

If you're spending less than you produce, you're saving.

And you should save when you're young and middle age when you're youthful or highly skilled so that when you're older and less capable you can live on those savings.

We find ourselves in a weird transitionsry period where Bitcoin will not just grow at the rate of our productivity. It's monetizing and it has a long way to go. So early adopters will be very very wealthy. But in the long term, they will either carry it to the grave or pass it down. So on and so forth. Us that pass it down can only hope we instil our children with the same principles or sampling more than they spend.

Fun fact, 70% of families lose their wealth after the 2nd generation. 90% after the 3rd.

Why would the softer money have more exports? Because they can print money to skew economic data to produce more goods in high demand sectors? But that money printing doesn't make REAL productivity. It's artificially inflated by sprinting to make more goods if you will. That would cause malinvestments and the hard money economy would be slower but much more efficient with much less waste.

Humans will always be productive. It's in our nature. Human action.

Human beings will always have a natural heirachy about them. Some of us are more productive than others. Those that are more productive would like a way to measure that productivity. Theyve earned more than the less productive. No matter how much of a surplus we have there will always be classes of people based on their economic output.

Time to take off the training wheels.

Wth man... How is that not an answer to your question?

Bitcoin is a system that has a base unit of currency bitcoin with a fixed supply of units.

Money is just something we use in an economy of scale to eliminate the need for a double coincidence of wants.

having a permissionless, verifiable and censorship resistant Network with a fixed supply, allows us to accurately measure the deflationary effects of technology to all equally benefit from the progression we make as a global economy that anyone can freely opt into at anytime, and no one can stop them from transacting, and no one has to trust each other about the money they are exchanging with one another.

So, bitcoin is money. It's ledger is on the Bitcoin Network.

Replying to Avatar 𝕞ptf

Hi nostr:nprofile1qqs02zxkft4nrwkq2ge8sswv0h2ee8fhcxppq2sy3fpepx9ghwqkm2cpz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqzxnhwden5te0dehhxarj9ehhyctwvajhq6tvdshxgetkqy2hwumn8ghj7emjv4jkuum0w4kzuumsv93k2gztcn5 I understand what you are saying. OceanSlim has given some interesting information in this overall discussion. However, going back to first principles, you can see like Core Devs, he uses illogical fallacies to back up his arguments.

What is the illogical fallacy? Bitcoin IS more than just money. That's just a fact. It's a database. I know you want it to be just for money, that would be great and I would agree that that would be great. But that's not the reality we live in. But it IS optimized to be used as money. It doesn't make any sense to do these "spam" things on Bitcoin. The only reason for it now is it's cheap. 1s/VB as soon as the chain fees go up, these things will all be priced out. The fee mechanism is the spam prevention on Bitcoin. Not filters.

what are you sorry for?

I think they should all be removed. They're more like bumper guards at the bowling alley. I'm an adult, I don't need that shit. I'll run libre.

There are thousands of OP_RETURNS more than 80 bytes on the blockchain now and before this change. Wtf are you talking about.

They don't want to do anything but maintain the reference implementation of Bitcoin. Stop attributing malicious intent to core developers.

Make the argument that it will harm Bitcoin. Stop saying "Core bad" because they made a change you don't fully understand.

How? No filter has been removed.

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You failed to demonstrate how but 🫂

I'm not defecting. You are. I'm not a shitcoiner and I have no motivations to shitcoin on bitcoin. You can achieve the same results of knots with core. But you don't understand the technicals so you're just virtue signalling by running knots. I don't care what you run.

Do not attribute motive to me where I have none because you can't argue facts.