Will there be two resurrection events and two judgements before death and hell are cast into the Lake of Fire?

The linked article agrees with the "one judgement" view, citing "the judgment" and "the day of judgment", but it doesn't address what is meant by the passage that seems to say there's a first judgment associated with a first resurrection. (He's mostly making a point against "once saved, always saved" (OSAS) doctrine.)

The verses seem to say that there are some who will be resurrected first, and that these will have "reigned with Christ a thousand years". Who are these people? Seems it at least includes martyrs (and/or unclear which) those who did not worship the beast and did not take his mark. Does this include all the just persons or only the specific named subset? Or is this describing something different? What is the 1000 years during which "the rest of the dead lived not again"? Why is it the "first resurrection" if there isn't a second?

Revelation 20:4-6: "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."

NLT makes it clearer, but I regard this "translation" as mere commentary:

Revelation 20:4-6: "Then I saw thrones, and the people sitting on them had been given the authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony about Jesus and for proclaiming the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his statue, nor accepted his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They all came to life again, and they reigned with Christ for a thousand years. This is the first resurrection. (The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years had ended.) Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. For them the second death holds no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him a thousand years."

My tentative understanding is that all will be judged and the outcome is final at the natural death of each person. Those who will be judged righteous will be resurrected 1000 years before those who will be judged unrighteous. "The judgment" would refer collectively to these distinct judgements described in Revelation 20. John 5 seems consistent with 2 resurrections, but doesn't describe 1000 years in between. I'd be very interested in other views of Revelation 20:4-6.

John 5:28-29: "Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation."

https://newcovenantunderstanding.wordpress.com/2019/03/04/is-there-really-two-judgments-or-only-one/

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What does "fall away" mean and why is repentance impossible in that case?

Hebrews 6:4-6: "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame."

Where did Jesus command to use lethal force in self defense? How does that relate to turning the other cheek and not resisting evil and loving our enemies?

Acts 5:25-32: "Then came one and told them, saying, Behold, the men whom ye put in prison are standing in the temple, and teaching the people. Then went the captain with the officers, and brought them without violence: for they feared the people, lest they should have been stoned. And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them, saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us. Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Savior, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him."

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It seems the final word was given when Jesus disarmed Peter:

Matthew 26:52: "Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."

This is perfectly in line with "love your enemies" in Matthew 5:44.

Tertullian understood Jesus disarming Peter to also be disarming all Christians. (He also thought by the same logic that Christians couldn't join the military even during peace time.)

Tertullian in Of Idolatry, Chapter 19:

"But how will a Christian man war, nay, how will he serve even in peace, without a sword, which the Lord has taken away? For albeit soldiers had come unto John, and had received the formula of their rule; albeit, likewise, a centurion had believed; still the Lord afterward, in disarming Peter, unbelted every soldier. No dress is lawful among us, if assigned to any unlawful action."

Jesus reiterated many of the commandments. The moral law is still applicable.

Mark 10:19-21: "Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honor thy father and mother. And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth. Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me."

Certainly under the Law of Moses. Didn't Christ raise the standard here along with other moral laws like lust being akin to adultery?

Is it loving your enemies to kill them? Why will all those taking the sword perish with the sword? Jesus says the greatest love involves a man laying down his own life.

Matthew 26:52: "Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."

John 15:12-14: "This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you."

How does it square with The Sermon on the Mount?

Matthew 5:38-39,43-46: "Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. ... Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?"

Is it okay for a Disciple of Christ to use deadly force under any circumstance?

https://carm.org/other-questions/do-christians-have-the-right-of-physical-self-defense/

It is, indeed, a well-rounded article, but it's lacking in addressing the main question. Only a few New Testament verses are given in claimed support of using violence in self defense or defense of others by Christians.

Luke 11:21-22: "When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace: But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armor wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils."

The context is

Luke 11:15: "But some of them said, He casts out the demons by Beelzebul the chief of the demons."

Jesus is pointing out the absurdity of devils casting out demons. In the example, Jesus is the stronger man who overcomes the armed man. Doesn't seem to say anything about violent self defense by Christians.

Luke 22:36-38: "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end. And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough."

This command seems to be solely to fulfill a specific prophecy and was given only to the disciples, not the multitudes; 2 swords were sufficient to fulfill the prophecy.

John 2:15: "And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;"

Doesn't seem to say anything about deadly force, nor does it say Jesus hit anyone with this non-lethal instrument. None of the commentaries on biblehub thought it a deadly weapon:

'This whip was made as an emblem of authority, and also for the purpose of driving from the temple the cattle which had been brought there for sale. There is no evidence that he used any violence to the men engaged in that unhallowed traffic. The original word implies that these "cords" were made of twisted "rushes" or "reeds" - probably the ancient material for making ropes.'

'Moreover there was no material which inflicted less lasting hurt on the body than this. Nor is it said, that He inflicted a single blow upon the men: He accomplished His purpose by the terror [which He inspired].'

'The "scourge," as Godet says, is a symbol, not an instrument. It was in Christ's hands a conspicuous method of expressing his indignation, and augmenting the force of his command, by an indication that he meant to be obeyed there and then.'

1 Timothy 5:8: "But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel."

This talks about providing for needs and says nothing about using violence to defend one's family.

The bit about the word translated "sword" in Luke vs a different word used for "sword" in Revelation was interesting:

'The word “sword” used by Jesus is μάχαιρα, máchaira. It means, “A knife, slaughter–knife, a sword for cutting…”1 and “a short sword or dagger.”2 And, “relatively short sword (or even dagger) used for cutting and stabbing—‘sword, dagger.’3'

'The word for sword there is ῥομφαία, rhomphaía. It means, “A broadsword used especially by the Thracians and carried on the right shoulder.”4'

It seems the final word was given when Jesus disarmed Peter:

Matthew 26:52: "Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."

This is perfectly in line with "love your enemies" in Matthew 5:44.

Tertullian understood Jesus disarming Peter to also be disarming all Christians. (He also thought by the same logic that Christians couldn't join the military even during peace time.)

Tertullian in Of Idolatry, Chapter 19:

"But how will a Christian man war, nay, how will he serve even in peace, without a sword, which the Lord has taken away? For albeit soldiers had come unto John, and had received the formula of their rule; albeit, likewise, a centurion had believed; still the Lord afterward, in disarming Peter, unbelted every soldier. No dress is lawful among us, if assigned to any unlawful action."

Tertullian described pacifism in A.D. 197. Specifically, he called for treating governments and individuals identically. He called for and described the actual practice of Christians not resisting any unruly mob illegally taking the law into its own hand with deadly force. He argued that no one may legitimately suffer any injury at the hands of a Christian and that the Christian would rather lay down his own life than inflict harm against anyone else even in self defense.

Matthew 5:38-39,43-44: "Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. ... Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;"

1 John 2:3-6: "And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked."

James 5:1-6: "Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten. Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days. Behold, the hire of the laborers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth. Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter. Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you."

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Revelation 20:15: "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

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Matthew 26:51-52: "And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear. Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."

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Luke 6:27-36: "But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also. Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again. And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise. For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them. And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same. And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again. But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful."

Matthew 22:9-14: "Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. For many are called, but few are chosen."

Been having trouble squaring this with the Sermon on the Mount.

Matthew 5:38-39: "Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."

Matthew 5:43-44: "Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;"

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What does Christ mean when he says, "Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery"?

How is "putting away" related to "dealing treacherously"?

Do either of these end a marriage with "the wife of thy covenant"?

Does anything else end such a marriage?

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Malachi 2:14: "Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the LORD hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant."

Luke 16:18: "Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery."

What must a man do to inherit eternal life?

How do works meet for repentance fit in?

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Philippians 4:13: "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me."

More realistically, the difference is the largest militaries in the world think there's a difference.

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Seems to say something about divorce not ending a marriage, given that those who remarry commit adultery.

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