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Roark Janis
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Bitcoiner since block 715895 Entrepreneur focused on projects like: https://BitBooks.com/ https://BitcoinConnector.com/ https://BitcoinCruise.com/ https://PakistanBitcoinMining.com/ https://BitcoinLiving.org ...and more

In the long-term, I think you are right. In the shorter term though do you think we can advance MoE and UoA? I'm working on the UoA use case with tools and solutions and would like to publish a White Paper soon with community participation. If anybody is interested, please me to to collaborate.

Thank you for sharing additional insights on this. As a relatively new bitcoiner, it is helpful to me to get more perspective. I have set up two lightning nodes myself to better understand the technology and use cases and don't think it could be locked out of the base layer. The reason is that to open a channel, I simply do an on-chain transactions from my wallet to a new multi-sig wallet with the party on the other end of my channel. How would a decentralized Bticoin network prevent somebody from submitting a valid onchain transaction to open a channel?

Once opened, I can freely transaction via the Ligthning protocol using that channel until such time as either my channel partner or I want to close the channel which is another onchain transaction to settle the amount of bitcoin each of us has on our side of the chnanel.  If the channel closing transactions is valid onchain, I don't think anybody would prevent it from being added to a block.

Except perhaps miners who could figure out a 51% attack but if that happened we have bigger problems than whether L2 is working or not.

Replying to Avatar NostrDamus

btc is being attacked on two fronts from outside and from within. satoshi's white paper spoke of nothing more than a medium of exchange. the store of value was never mentioned. it is arguable therefore the value is the medium of exchange.

crisis of confidence - small blocks, big blocks.

small blocks allow millions of nodes to run domestically. they also protect against 'dod' attack of the network. in the early days this was necessary. today with millions of users, less so.

big blocks allow for more and faster transactions. btc is scaleable. it always has been. spv made that possible, it is still possible today. the small blocks were only a precaution in the early days. so why do we still have small blocks?

small blocks make it easier for everyone to store a full node. given the full node is less than a tb, this is really not a something we should be worried about. most businesses run 40tb servers+. btc could expand the block size and still maintain 100s of thousands of nodes. so why keep blocks small? who wins?

in the short term those setting fees. in the long term, nobody. btc will fail to be of any value unless it is returned to being a medium of exchange. it is only an asset if it has value to people. if the network only handles the monster payments, what value is it to you and i?

dollar go up is completely the wrong thinking.

use btc to avoid fraud, corruption and dystopian rule. return to a free market and peace. the value in that is instant.

if you are in business or starting out price in btc. sell, buy borrow lend .... in btc and create the world you want for you and yours.

lets also open the discussion around block size again and stop the censorship from within. this way we win on both fronts. we leave fiat behind and move on with the world's best money.

GM 🙃

The size of the block doesn't seem like the issue. It seems like layer 1 taking an average of 10 minutes per block to confirm and 60 minutes for 6 confirmation to ensure immutability is a bigger concern. Why don't the big blockers ever explain how BTC can be a Medium of Exchange (MoE) when it takes much longer than a fiat credit card approval we are used to when exchanging. Lightning and a myriad of other options mentioned by nostr:npub1s05p3ha7en49dv8429tkk07nnfa9pcwczkf5x5qrdraqshxdje9sq6eyhe do offer a comparable user experience. My focus is on creating the Unit of Account (UoA) to support the MoE so that bitcoin can become have all monetary properties as the geniuses that are working on layer 2 have great solutions for us.

Replying to Avatar Jeff Booth

I’m writing this because I keep getting asked to comment on Saylor/Saif video even though my position hasn’t changed.

The natural state of the free market is deflation which means all prices fall forever in Bitcoin (assuming it stays decentralized and secure)

Free market economies are more productive meaning faster deflation (or real wealth gains by falling prices)

That system is incompatible with an inflationary monetary system meaning one of those systems must fail.

Either:

1) A system based on truth, hope, and abundance for all 8 billion people on the planet driven by a free market economy and all prices fall relative to bitcoin forever. This means Bitcoin is used as a medium of exchange and freedom tech spreads to the world through lightning, Liquid, Fedimint, Cashu, etc.

OR

2) A control system. An extractive rent seeking system that is NOT the free market (similar to the one we have had for 5000 years that resets every 100 or so years through war) continues to centralize by having you believe price of bitcoin is going up in fiat which makes the surveillance state stronger. This eventually centralizes Bitcoin - custodians, media, regulation (funded from the same manipulation of money) where it is attacked from layer 2. (Similar to gold)

While these ideas may “seem” compatible in the short term because you want Bitcoin to go up in fiat. What it really means is that you are giving your energy and strength to the system centralizing the world by converting Bitcoin to Fiat….to then measure prices.

Quite simply - If Bitcoin is only a store of value, it fails as a store of value.

Ps - It won’t fail. #1 is inevitable in time because too many (and more each day) have seen behind the curtain and are determined to build path #1.

Many of you here - the people that inspire me every day. You make a difference with every word, thought and action.

Almost did that in all caps per nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx because it’s so important.

Referring to # 1 above…..There is no second best.

#1 all the way! In addition to the tools like "lightning, Liquid, Fedimint, Cashu, etc.", for Medium of Exchange (Moe), we will need tools and applications to use bitcoin as a Unit of Account (UoA). I think that aspect of MoE adoption is not getting enough attention and I'm organizing some efforts around that with the few who are working on tools. Anybody with interest in helping to create a White Paper on UoA with our group, please reach out to me.

I'm announcing BitVotr, a new voting protocol to fight election fraud, releasing today to the public domain.

The whitepaper of the protocol is available on GitHub and has a website, BitVotr.com.

Pull requests welcome. Questions and comments welcome in GitHub issues section, and will go towards a FAQ document later.

The protocol introduces new concepts and borrows from old...

- Proof of Tax linked to public keys (new).

- Vote merging for anonymity (borrowed from coin mixing).

- Peer to peer network to submit, sign, and merge votes (every voter is a peer).

- Tamper proofing of count via pgp signatures.

- Peers use RAFT protocol for consensus and data protection (borrowed).

- Byzantine Fault Tolerance thresholds for minimum verification, and defends against network attack.

- Data dissemination of the tally and signatures to Nostr and BitTorrent (no blockchain or token required).

- Vote count by the public (like nodes in Bitcoin verifying blocks).

- Election clock using Bitcoin timechain (without writing to it).

BitVote doesn't force a tyrannical government to be honest and benign, instead, it makes election fraud evident.

Voting doesn't overthrow tyranny, only revolution or total collapse does. Step 1 is to overcome the gaslighting and make fraud undeniable.

Of course dishonest governments will reject this. The system must begin small, prove itself, and be unavoidable to larger and larger democracies.

This is not an endorsement of voting as an ethical way to organise society, but if we are going to vote, it should be verifiable by the people it affects.

This is a very interesting idea and I appreciate how much thinking and effort it took to put it together. I hope you will post updates periodically about it.

Replying to Avatar Joe Nakamoto

Today I visited a school for mentally challenged and disabled kids that didn’t have a lick of AC.

Classrooms do have ceiling fans but they do sweet fuck all when it gets to a certain temperature.

It was 35 degrees + humid today but felt like 42.

That’s like when you open the oven door to check on your chicken.. every time you step outside.

Why was I there?

Well bitcoiners at btccuracao funded the school’s brand new WiFi.

I wanted to see the impact of this donation and speak to a poorer community about their experience with btc.

Btccuraco paid the internet company that installed the WiFi in Sats as part of the donation. It’s one of many grassroots initiatives they undertake to try to show that bitcoin is better money.

The new WiFi is a total game changer for the school and the teachers were tearful explaining how much it has helped them teach, inspire and lead these less fortunate kids.

But it only goes so far.

The solar panels atop the school’s long roof “stopped working” this week.

A govt contractor installed the panels this year as a “go green” initiative.

Long story of govt enraging incompetence short, basically half the school had working WiFi + ceiling fans. Sometimes the electricity simply cuts out.

So one half of the school had classrooms of engaged kids with YouTube access + useful visual aids for the kids in a semi manageable heat

while the other half slowly cooked and tried to read books in the inferno.

My white shirt was wet and transparent by the time I finished the school tour. I was like how the feck are these kids gonna get a chance in life?

I interviewed the head of ICT who was gushing about the new WiFi and was saying how some of the kids can now learn to code with this Minecraft coding thing.

She had the biggest heart. But like many islanders she had been crypto scammed a few years ago and was still really reluctant about bitcoin.

Really saddening because of course no sane person thinks “oh yeah I’m gonna learn about bitcoin now I sold my gold necklace for a crypto thing 5 years ago and never got the money back.”

I managed to send her some sats to say thank you but if I’m honest I think it’s coz I was recording this during the interview.

In all, I left the school utterly humbled and a little bit angry at the world.

I don’t have a nice thing to round off on, sorry.

Bitcoin doesn’t fix everything. And some things utterly suck.

Thank you for sharing this insight. We have much to be grateful for while using the blessings of saving in bitcoin to do good and help those less fortunate

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