True, but the lightning network does not have a block explorer, so I recommend using that instead

Routing nodes do not know what amount is being transmitted. They only know the amount *they've* been asked to forward, they have no idea if that's the full amount.

I don't know what persuaded monero guys that publishing their transactions is good for their privacy but it's an obvious problem that bitcoin fixes.

Lightning doesn't have terrible receiver privacy despite false claims to the contrary. Bolt11 "invoices" had terrible privacy by default, but you could (1) manually wrap them (2) manually replace your key with an ephemeral one (3) use keysend instead. Keysend payments never exposed the recipient, but they also didn't give the sender a "proof of payment." Now we have bolt12 as an arising standard that *also* doesn't expose the recipient by default, and *does* give the sender a proof of payment.

Also: the recipient's ip address is not exposed by default. You have to manually configure your network to do port forwarding if you want to show up as a routing node, and that is a big reason why most lightning users do not route payments. And most users who *do* route payments opt to do it over tor so that they *don't* expose their ip address.

The block explorers are the whole problem bro. That's why we got rid of them. Learn the lesson. If you've got a block explorer, you've got a very serious privacy problem.

> Monero's privacy is better than Bitcoin

Wishful thinking won't mask your transactions, friend. Someone convinced you that publishing all of your transactions on a permanent blockchain is good for your privacy when it obviously isn't. Bitcoin leapfrogged way past monero six years ago when we created a payment channel network and stopped broadcasting all of our activity for the whole world to see. Catch up. Use lightning. Stop listing the sender, the recipient, and partial amount info in every transaction. Drop monero.

"why are you lying to people?"

I'm not. The recipient's address is a key that you publish in plaintext, unencrypted, in every transaction. Why? Why not use the lightning network and avoid publishing the destination at all?

"yeah, that's how ring sigs work"

Do better: use payment channels and *don't* tell the whole world forever a list of possible senders with a public proof of your membership in that set. Again, you're not identifying a lie, just because you don't like the truth doesn't make it a lie. Lightning beats the pants off the outdated "privacy" tech used in monero. Get up to speed with the rest of us.

"what is the problem with knowing the fee?"

It is information about the amount sent, that's what. In lightning, we conceal that. In monero, you publish it. Catch up. Stop hurting your own privacy. Drop monero and use lightning.

> Money must not have a destination

Monero, however, does. Bitcoin does too but at least with bitcoin you can prevent the sender from knowing where the money went.

It is not disingenuous. The recipient alone has the private key; it's his address, whose else would it be? Point 2 is the honest truth: the sender puts the recipient's address in plaintext on the blockchain and if the recipient ever decides to send it he has to identify it on the blockchain again as a possible sender

It relates to the recipient. He alone has the private key. And it will show up on the blockchain again as a possible sender if he ever decides to send the money to someone. This is not deceptive; it is the truth about monero's transparent blockchain.

#2​ is completely true. Monero users publish the recipient's stealth address in every transaction, in plain text. The money *ends up* in a different address (one that is *derived from* the stealth address), but you still publish an address belonging to your recipient, in plain text, in every transaction. And that's just a stupid thing to do. Use payment channels, bro.

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Meanwhile, in monero, the amount is encrypted but the fee isn't

Also, the sender publishes the recipient's address and the change address in plaintext

And he publishes a list of possible senders and a public proof that he is one of them

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