Good luck!

If a client did implement a block feature it would only work with other users of that client, and maybe other clients that choose to participate. It would not work on clients that don't implement it. The trolls you want to block would not opt in and would still be able to see and post on your notes. If that's good enough for you then that's great, because that's probably the closest you can get to what you want anyway. I feel like that's only a half measure and doesn't really solve your problem. It's basically the same as mute except other people can opt in on your mute list. Is that good enough?

I can appreciate that you want a block feature to feel safe, but the reason I'm so against it is because of the potential for abuse. Some people will use it to silence anyone who disagrees with them so they can spread their ideas without anyone pushing back on them. This can be used to spread propaganda, hate, misinformation, and all sorts of nasty things.

Anyway we'll see what develops and what people use. There are going to be all sorts of solutions to this problem that we haven't even thought of, and I think users will have the freedom to choose what works best for them. Since you aren't arguing for a protocol change I'm not going to push back so hard on this. I thought you were because that's the only way for a block system to be effective imo.

There's a tab on profiles in Amethyst that shows reports a user has received. If you search a user on nostr.band you can see some info on reports as well. Those are the only two places I know about.

Hi

So your replies are automated then?

I'm still in weekday mode too. My weekend doesn't begin until Monday. Weekend nostr is definitely way more low key than weekday nostr. I find it a little boring tbh.

Nostr is a public space, not your property to choose who uses it. If you want to be a gatekeeper this may not be the place for you.

Reports just get uploaded to relays like any other note. Clients and relays can choose to use them in their moderation efforts or ignore them as they wish.

If we didn't see it before it was cooked it doesn't count. Steak streak broken, start over at day 1.

Oh damn. That's interesting 🤔

Hey, are you responding to my comment from a nostr client or Mastadon?

I think WoS is fine for smaller amounts. You just need to know they could run off with it at any time and act accordingly, which is why I never have more than 100k sats on there.

I use Phoenix for larger amounts.

Amboss has a lot of good info, though I've heard people complain about them being a invasive of privacy if you let them. Might want to ask around about that, I don't remember the details.

Fees are really low, like less than 0.1% in most cases.

You're welcome 😁

Yeah I can't recommend routing to anyone that's wanting to do it casually. Even a small routing node requires a lot of attention and you'll likely not make a profit. You really need a lot of technical skills to pull it off, like writing scripts that automate things or analyze the network to find channel opportunities that might be lucrative. Just opening random channels to plebs doesn't really cut it (that's mostly what I did).

I didn't lose much, but that was also when I could open channels for 1 sat/vb. The random force closures are what really killed it for me though. I would have a force closure cost me a few thousand sats and at the rate I was routing it would take a month to recover it, then I'd have another 2 weeks later.

I was also worried about my own reliability running on a ras pi with potentially not perfect internet. I'm sure some force closures were my fault too. They only happen when a payment gets stuck somehow (don't know the exact details), so it shouldn't be a problem with private channels that don't constantly have transactions flowing on them.

Also, I don't think I was even much use to the network. A lot of the activity was other nodes using me to rebalance their own channels. If I turned up fees I wouldn't route anything, and when they were low I couldn't keep my channels balanced because everyone around me was charging higher fees and rebalancing wasn't economical. All I felt like I was doing was subsidizing more successful nodes.

Anyway that's the story in case you needed more convincing not to mess with routing 😅

It's always the same people.

Sorry I'm still using it. Refilled 50k sats.

Private for personal use, or you could do public and set the fees really high. If you have public channels with low fees then other nodes will take advantage of them to rebalance their own channels and throw yours all out of balance.

In that case I would recommend fewer large channels to some large nodes. That will cut down on the number of jumps you need for routing and they will be more reliable in terms of uptime and successful routing.

You shouldn't need to rebalance channels if you're not a routing node. All you'll need to worry about is having enough outgoing liquidity if you spend more than you receive. You can refill your channels by paying your own invoice with Strike or other LN enabled exchange, or just close drained channels and open a new one. As long as you're spending more than you receive you will always have enough incoming liquidity without going out of your way to get it.

I ran a routing node for about a year and I can tell you it wasn't really worth it at small scale. I eventually shut it down and intended to start a node for personal use, but I found Phoenix works fine for my needs so I'm not planning on it for now. It was a good experience though. If you have any questions fire away.

What's the purpose of the node? Just for personal use? Do you expect to send or receive more sats?

I realized after I posted that's what you meant. I had a Reddit moment, sorry.

I keep forgetting to pick one up.