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Replying to Avatar Brian Vastag

nostr:npub1g7tj3r7k4u66sak32s6gpv3e9qx0c7adqdk0ymegaa9x0dad45hscdy757 My interpretation is that the people in the program, if it exists, are agnostic or unsure about the origins, so they use NHI as it's a generic description.

nostr:npub1zle9nhxsw0wr6s3enc0tc23drjaqv3wt60mzast4pen59q4y4kgq3738k8 that would actually be a reasonable approach.

nostr:npub1zle9nhxsw0wr6s3enc0tc23drjaqv3wt60mzast4pen59q4y4kgq3738k8 hold on... wait a minute... I cracked it! They're evolved animals from the future! Millions of years in the future, once Humanity managed to extinguish itself through wars or the destruction of the environment, some animal managed to evolve like we did and move as far as acquiring time travelling capabilites. Maybe the tech is not fine tuned yet and that's why they keep trashing their ships. But why the obsession with travelling to now? (Please note I don't believe any of this)

nostr:npub1zle9nhxsw0wr6s3enc0tc23drjaqv3wt60mzast4pen59q4y4kgq3738k8 another alternative is AI from the future. Which brings us to the Terminator scenario.

nostr:npub1zle9nhxsw0wr6s3enc0tc23drjaqv3wt60mzast4pen59q4y4kgq3738k8 no, I know. I wasn't questioning you, I was trying to provide examples of reasonable questions one can think of taking into account the proposed claims.

nostr:npub1zle9nhxsw0wr6s3enc0tc23drjaqv3wt60mzast4pen59q4y4kgq3738k8 hold on... wait a minute... I cracked it! They're evolved animals from the future! Millions of years in the future, once Humanity managed to extinguish itself through wars or the destruction of the environment, some animal managed to evolve like we did and move as far as acquiring time travelling capabilites. Maybe the tech is not fine tuned yet and that's why they keep trashing their ships. But why the obsession with travelling to now? (Please note I don't believe any of this)

Replying to Avatar Brian Vastag

nostr:npub1g7tj3r7k4u66sak32s6gpv3e9qx0c7adqdk0ymegaa9x0dad45hscdy757 I don't know the answer but I did find it very curious that Grusch pushed back against the ET word several times.

nostr:npub1zle9nhxsw0wr6s3enc0tc23drjaqv3wt60mzast4pen59q4y4kgq3738k8 no, I know. I wasn't questioning you, I was trying to provide examples of reasonable questions one can think of taking into account the proposed claims.

Replying to Avatar Brian Vastag

nostr:npub1g7tj3r7k4u66sak32s6gpv3e9qx0c7adqdk0ymegaa9x0dad45hscdy757 I didn't hear Grusch make the claim the objects came from light years away. And he was careful to push back on the term "extraterrestrial" and used "non-human intelligence" instead.

nostr:npub1zle9nhxsw0wr6s3enc0tc23drjaqv3wt60mzast4pen59q4y4kgq3738k8 well, but what's the alternative? Are they some opposing-thumb dolphin variation which managed to outperform our technological accomplishments while simultaneously having a societal existence almost completely invisible to Humanity except for the odd non-spaceship crash which only the US Air Force seems to be able to spot?

Parece que o Papa não vai andar para aí a correr de um lado para o outro.

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