The visual style is evolving. The most recent release is quite different. Keep watching.
From: corndalorian<-Der... at 06/14 08:07
> Not my style visually but I love that Nostr can be so many things depending on client design and user choice šš¤
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License added. MIT, full permissions. Have at it! And thanks for the reminder.
From: TheSameCat<-ringo at 06/14 07:56
> #[3]ā Your repo lacks a license kind sir. Iāve been talking to some people about your project and itās been causing some confusion about what theyāre allowed to do with the code.
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> Would you consider adding a license?
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The internet when nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m announces heās RFK Jrās running mate

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From: (trey) at 06/14 07:51
> The internet when nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m announces heās RFK Jrās running mate
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You should zap @NostrReport, they're doing a great job.
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Today ended very well. All the copyedits for Functional Design are complete. Off to the publisher they go!
Tomorrow I work on more-speech.
I think it's time for an anti-trust lawsuit.
From: jb55 at 06/13 16:19
> The number of people who contacted me today offering support (even from within apple) has been absolutely staggering. There are nostriches *everywhere*. We are going to win.
From: mikedilger at 06/11 17:50
> Gossip used to do this, but somehow it got lost in the UI shuffle. I would like to see it come back one day, the ability to at least untag those people you mention in the note, so they aren't alerted that you are talking about them.
#[4] made a recommendation that I'm giving serious thought to. His idea was to put the CCs into a seperate text edit window so that they can still be editted by the user, but are not textually included in the message.
I can see the logic behind that. The CCs in the text can be an annoyance to those who are viewing messages on a smaller screen. On the other hand, the inclusion of CCs in written communications is traditional in the extreme, and has a very deep utility. It is good for people to have the CC list thrown in their face so that they realize whom they are communicating with -- and about.
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No worries. I sometimes land harder than I should (just ask my flight instructor ;-). That's probably just a reaction to the many battles I've had on twitter/facebook etc. There are some very nasty people out there, and the platforms tend to side with them. I should remember that nostr is not a platform and cannot take sides.
From: jsm<-DerekRoss at 06/11 14:08
> What I meant for the CCs is editing the CCs in a separate text field (no annoying and slow checkboxes) as plain text and then using that separate text to change the tags instead of doing the editing in the content field.
Or... Perhaps clients who don't want to show CCs can remove them...
From: mutatrum<-DerekRoss at 06/11 12:26
> It's Uncle Bob sillyness and features from his client.
From my point of view the fixation on twitter/facebook look-alikes is what is silly. There are other ways to communicate. Some of they might even be better. And don't give me any "OK Boomer" shit; because that's the height of ignorance.
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No, it's not email. The format looks a bit like email; but it's actually more related to NetNews.
Long, long ago, in a century far away, we programmers had a social network called UseNet. It was transported over the internet when the internet was very young and most of us used dial-up modems at 300bps to connect to friends who had friends who had access to the backbone.
NetNews was transported using the NNTP protocol, and copied from host to host to host. It was our social network, and we used it to debate all manner of topics. We would post articles, and reply to those articles and construct long winded threads of discussion and debate.
UseNet was a distributed and uncensorable network that nobody owned and nobody controlled. It was very much like nostr.
So when I discovered nostr, almost two years ago now, I decided I would create a client that was reminiscent of NetNews in hopes that one day we could resurect those days of censorship free and heady discussions.
This is what a reply looks like without the headers and CCs. ^A and we're off to the races.
> What about changing the more-speech UI to allow editing the list of CCs that goes into the event as text[...]
Editing text with a keyboard and mouse is pretty easy. I am really loath to create a special UI with a bunch of checkboxes for each CC.
In this thread I've been leaving all the headers and CCs in place because the thread was _about_ those headers and CCs. Typically, however, I simply ^A and delete them before I start composing. In this reply, for example, I simply editted out the header and CCs.
From: (jsm) at 06/11 11:38
> Iām fine with the early email style responses, Iāve always thought it was a good format, but could you perhaps change the header? Maybe donāt include the relay, time, or CCs since those can more easily be embedded in the event instead of the content?
I've shortened the header significantly. And I've moved the CC:s to the end. For the time being I want to leave the CC:s in place because I don't want to create a horrible UI with checkboxes to select who should be mentioned. I just edit the list and the mentions tagged accordingly.
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From: pablof7z<-DerekRoss at 06/11/23 11:33:58 on wss://nos.lol
> Lol, you could have said so from the beginning!
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What fun would that have been? Be well.
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From: -VitorPamplona<-D... at 06/11/23 11:24:22 on wss://relay.nostriches.org
> Yep, you do you. Just know that posts from your clients look very ugly and difficult to read in all others.
I look at that screenshot and I think: "My, how lovely!".
Anyway, I'd like to thank you for this discussion. I actually have been listening to you. It's just that it's been so long since I've had a good debate on a free social network that I couldn't resist poking the bear a little.
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From: pablof7z<-DerekRoss at 06/11/23 11:14:37 on wss://nos.lol
> ...The ānostr is free, Iāll do what I wantā is certainly a conversation stopper.
Good. I'm glad you figured that out.
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From: -VitorPamplona<-D... at 06/11/23 11:07:47 on wss://relay.nostriches.org
> Since I coded the same thing you have with e and p tags, I think you are wrong. And I don't even have the power of a desktop toake it work.
It is your right to think I'm wrong. It's a free nostr. It is my right to persist in my wrongness. It's a free nostr.
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From: -VitorPamplona<-D... at 06/11/23 11:03:14 on wss://relay.nostriches.org
> Because everyone else that reads your posts has a phone, not a large screen.
No, not everyone. I think it would be a disaster for Nostr to assume that mobile device was the only allowed terminals. Indeed, who knows what form mobile devices will take in the future. It may be that we will all soon be wearing Vision Pro goggles with really huge virtual screens.
> And again, it's just an ugly.
Ugliness is in the eye of the beholder.
> By having a separate highlight event for each quote, you are allowing people to copy, like, zap, report the quoted sections directly. That's the power of nostr. Composability.
From my point of view the power of nostr is freedom. Feel free to compose all you like. I will feel free to compose as much as I like. I may decide to adapt to the highlighter style of quoting; and I may not. Or I may decide to use both in different use cases. It's a free nostr.
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