just put Emily on the nostr protocol at a conference today during a small group discussion where we were talking about not "othering" people and creating a sense of belonging in our work

I wouldn't subscribe to any community mute list unless or until we get flooded with spam bots. Because I'm pretty tough and not bothered by hateful content. But some people want different things that I do.

WoT excludes people who are freshly joining nostr. A lot o people want to greet them.

There have been a lot of ideas about dealing with unwanted content on nostr. I'm going to try to break it down in this post

Part 1: Keeping unwanted content off of relays

This is done for two reasons. The first is legal: you could get in trouble by hosting illegal content. The second is to try to curate a set of content that is within some bounds of acceptability: perhaps flooding is not allowed, or spam posts about shitcoins are not allowed, maybe even mean posts are not allowed. It's up to the relay operator.

Early on people talked about Proof of Work, and this was meant to limit how fast a flooder or spammer could saturate your relay with junk, and therefore how much junk a moderator would have to look through. I don't know of any relay that went in this direction, and I don't think it's a great solution.

Then we saw paid relays. Paid relays only accept posts from their customers. This is a very effective solution. Customers can still break the rules but you have a smaller set of people that can do that and there are consequences.

But the downside with paid relays is if they cannot be used as inboxes. Ideally a relay would also work as an inbox for notes tagging any of your paid customers. Unfortunately in that case those responses can be floods, spam, or other unwanted content. So the same problem comes back around.

In the end, I think in order to support people getting messages from anybody, relays would need to inspect content and make judgements about it. And this is going to need to be automated. Email servers almost all do spam filtering using bayesian filters. We probably should be doing the same or similar. Maybe AI can play a role.

Part 2: Keeping unwanted content out of your own feed

The first thing clients can do is leverage Part 1. That is, use relays that do some of the work for you. Clients can avoid pulling global feed posts or thread replies from relays that aren't known to be managing content to the user's satisfaction.

The primary tool here is mute. Personal mute lists are a must. The downsides are that (1) they are post-facto, and (2) they cannot control for harassment from people who really want to harass and just keep making up new keypairs to repeat the harassment.

We can fix the post-facto issue to a large degree by having community mute lists (some people may call this 'blocking' but I don't want to confuse with the Twitter feature that doesn't allow a person to see your posts). This is where people of like mind subscribe to and manage a community mute list, and so when someone is muted, everybody benefits from it, meaning most people in that community won't see the offending post.

That doesn't solve problem 2, however. For that we have even more restrictive solutions

The first is the web-of-trust model. You only accept posts from people that you follow or who they follow. This is highly effective, but may silence posts you would have wanted to see.

The second is even more restrictive: private group conversations.

Finally I will mention two additional related features: thread dismissal and content warnings.

That's it. GM nostr!

I encourage you all to fight.

Have they been able to close eMule or Bitorrent? No because they are p2p protocols. In the same way, neither could they close bitcoin or lightning because they are p2p protocols.

They will go after you if they know who you are, obviously if you are a registered company they have it easy.

They want to control bitcoin through KYC, they also want to control the on and off ramps.

Nobody ever said this was easy, ETFs were the first trap, it's all part of the plan.

What is left for you to do? fight and create an alternative economy to the FIAT currency because bitcoin will continue to increase in value by the simple fact that the Fiat system will try to take over as many Bitcoins as possible through the ETFs, through the banks themselves that will end up buying Bitcoin directly or indirectly and even through the central banks.

Don't look at the finger, look at the moon, don't fall into the trap of fear, try to live outside the state, there is no other friend.

So… Is there anyone around this space who’s NOT a Bitcoin Maxi?

Ethnic cleansing and techno-Zionism... What could possibly go wrong?

And these subjects who are valuing these ordinals will be scammed by VC money, that’s all I an saying

If you hold on to the vision of any value you love — your mind, your work, your wife or husband, or your child — and remember that that is what the enemy is after, your shudder of rebellion will give you the moral fire, the courage and the intransigence needed in this battle.

~ Ayn Rand

Not only are poocoiners hindering Bitcoin because they are trying to ride the coat-tails on this new protocol. They are also dragging us down on opposition to the existing system.

imagine how much stronger Bitcoin and the things we fight for would be if all the poocoiners dropped their game of hot potato with each other. the actual defense of Bitcoin would grow an order of magnitude stronger.

Bitcoin needs everyone we can get fighting for what really matters. Maybe the continued attacks against Bitcoin from the state bring more poocoiners on board.

Happy Friday, GM NOSTR.

I don't listen to Bitcoin-only economists anymore because they are incapable of predicting short- and mid-term changes and in the long run we are all dead.

A good explanation, although the accusation that I was suggesting dystopian solution is false. I outlined why people want blocking. I didn't suggest we implement it, in fact that's so hard to do on Nostr it will probably never happen.

A good explanation, although the accusation that I was suggesting dystopian solution is false. I outlined why people want blocking. I didn't suggest we implement it, in fact that's so hard to do on Nostr it will probably never happen.