It wouldn’t be the first time if this “phenomenon that is described by the current science” with supposed evidence turns out to be an unfounded misconception. In my book light does not visually bring up objects from 5km under the physical horizon, unless I see properly documented scientific evidence of it occurring in real life. I will continue to look for evidence myself, but if you manage to find it please do share.
How does this compare to darknet markets? What happens if someone tries to sell drugs using Nostrmarket?
Wait, so one is not allowed to simply question the existence of evidence of a supposed phenomena happening in the real world? This is what you call science?
Once again, the burden of proof is on whoever claims that some phenomena does exist. It is definitely not me, the person who questions it, that should provide evidence of it's non-existence. I don’t have to do anything to be able to point out the clear lack of proper evidence.
The fact stays the same - there is not a single properly documented piece of evidence that suggests that terrestrial refraction has anything to do with real life. Stating that it can visually lift objects to the tune of many kilometers up in the air is a very bold claim with zero actual backing. Only simulations, approximations and suppositions that without exception lack all the needed relevant real world measurements 🤷♂️
How about this?
http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Rainy+Lake+Experiment%3A+Refraction+Measurements
But in general, it’s really strange that you even have these doubts and ask for evidence.
Supposedly you are the guy that looked into it, but clearly you haven’t.
The theory applies to all electromagnetic waves and all media.
But for some reason, you think light and air should be different, even though all observances are in line with the equations… the equations which you haven’t even bothered to look into.
Basically you are trying to claim that the equations are suspect, the measurements of earth are sus, but you cannot even yourself calculate an example that the image violates.
You simply say „mountain shouldn’t be visible“ when that’s not at all what the current theories suggest.
In fact if the mountain was NOT visible at least some of the time, that would invalidate the science.
Thank you, this link is much better.
How is it strange that I have doubts over a theory and want to see properly documented evidence for its existence in the real world? I always thought that this is what science should be about - not believing anything, unless it can be objectively proven in the real life.
So *on paper* this theory applies to all electromagnetic waves. However, in the link you provided the author claims that “the measurement of positions in space using Differential GPS enables us to measure the radius of the earth and earth's curvature without optical detours”. So does refraction affect all electromagnetic waves including radio waves used by GPS, or does it not? Seems like you and the author of the linked study are of different opinions on this subject. Anyway, I am interested in the supposed optical phenomena which is why I am only considering evidence regarding light waves.
For some reason, I do believe that light traveling through air is different from light traveling though water and glass (and especially through all of the above media combined at the same time)… Indeed, why would I believe that (if you exclude the fact that it is completely logical)?
I have looked through all of the equations that you mentioned and beyond, almost none of them have anything to do directly with the supposed terrestrial refraction. In many of them earth’s curvature is simplified away and calculations are made either with earth considered being flat or light rays considered being straight. And most of these equations are admittedly just approximations of a purely theoretical phenomena.
Regarding the study you linked, the author created a straw man of how refraction supposedly should act on a flat earth, and then disproved it using his purely theoretical simulations like it actually means something. Moreover, this study lacks all the necessary data points to objectively prove the existence of terrestrial refraction. Namely the temperature, pressure and humidity of air layers captured on video (and their relative placement) are completely absent. If you manage to find another study that does include them, please do share. I genuinely try my best to look into things, and am always open to changing my opinion on any given subject, but only if proper evidence presents itself. So far there is no properly documented evidence for me to believe light bends many kilometres up from below the earth’s supposed physical horizon.
Because the mainstream media would definitely tell you the truth, and not try to feed you pseudo scientific virology fearmongering 🙃
In this video experiment light passes through air first, then through the glass wall of the aquarium and finally through the water with dissolved sugar. I don’t see how light acting a certain way passing through air + glass + sugary water is an evidence of how it acts when passing solely through the air.
Definitely, I suspect a properly organized experiment proving the light terrestrial refraction theory will require more effort than an amateur weekend project. That’s why I’m fine with any documented evidence of this phenomena occurring in nature that includes all the relevant data points like air temperature, pressure, humidity and relative placement of the air layers. If you manage to find any, please let me know.
The thing with terrestrial refraction and namely looming is that it only exists in theory and simulations like that guy created. But I never saw it properly documented in real life at any scale, neither as an experiment, nor as a full scale natural phenomena. I don’t try to debunk it. I try to find real evidence for its existence and so far have failed to do so.
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P.S. the reason that it’s easier to demonstrate with radio than with light is, because the wavelengths are so much longer, so you can easier demonstrate it in air.
Found this video for you with a demonstration in water, but with light https://youtu.be/KLufSkz-et0
I think you meant Snell’s Law which is used to describe light passing through a boundary between two isotropic (homogeneous) media, such as water, glass or air. And as you can see it is not relevant in our case, as in the original photo the light passes solely through a single media which is air with supposedly different refraction indexes at different layers.
I am stating the fact that using simple geometry it is not possible to see as far away as 443km according to official earth’s size and dimensions, as any object would be under the physical horizon by more than *5* kilometres. This is not my personal proposal, it is a geometrical fact. If someone claims that it is possible nevertheless due to the layers of air through which the light passes being of different temperature, pressure and humidity and subsequently having different refraction indexes - the burden of proof is on them. They literally need to provide photographic evidence coupled with all the other relevant data points. There is no other way to objectively prove this theory otherwise. I don’t understand how this is even debatable.
Thank you for sharing the video. Is this the best documented “evidence” for terrestrial refraction that’s out there? I have a lot of problems with it, mainly that it shows light going through air, glass and water (with sugar in it) at the same time, this is 3 completely different media. How is this supposed to be the evidence of how the light acts between the boundaries of supposedly different layers of air? I am not even going to go into how this experiment is done unprofessionally, all kinds of variables were straight up changed in the midst of it. If you have any other proper scientific evidence (preferably that is not documented by some amateur conspiracy debunkoor), I would appreciate if you could share it with all of us.
Nice, I think before it resulted in a link being shown together with an image.
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Just make sure to leave no spaces accidentally right after the link.
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The word on the streets is they already did happen some time ago, although I don't think many are actively maintained and I don't have any link handy.
We do not need broken price prediction models.
Just keep stacking BTC long term at any opportunity.
It is also a solid social consensus formed around it. If the code fails (as it already did on multiple occasions) I can trust global social consensus to uphold bitcoins supply integrity.
How do relays own my followers? Seems like you are projecting fediverse's features onto NOSTR. If relays ban my public key from posting, each and every one of my followers is able to find my posts on other relays using the same identity of mine. Which is not the case on fediverse, there if I am banned from a server, my followers have literally no way to continue receiving my posts, and I have to start gathering a following completely from scratch using a new identity.
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Do you know which 4 things you need to destory nations? You must destroy their race, culture, language and currency. Without the 4, Nations don't exist anymore. This is trough infiltrating their governments, destruction of which you sadly support instead of learning that authoritarian moral government is only thing that can punish them for ever, unless you want some sort of hunger games, everything else will result with your offsprings living twice as worse as you. Because you are fighting immortal ideology.
The rest is you believing in feirytales of Libertarian Marxists.
Libertarianism/Anarchy is not what you falsely believe, it's a phase of social trauma caused by jews.
Another great document that breaks that trauma. https://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/
Just saw this. In order to destroy nations you need to destroy family as an institution, their culture (race and language included) and their money (take away their ability to save). And all of the governments without exceptions are doing exactly this. Any (authoritarian) government destroys traditional families, separates children from their parents and brainwashes them into being government cucks. And nothing good has ever stemmed from that.
Anarchy is the original natural state of life. “Jews” or bankers are helpless in it, they can only force people into slavery through any form of government, not its absence.
I am more than halfway through the “Europa - the last battle”, and I might even watch the other one you suggest. But it is clear to me that “national-socialism” is just another pocket form of government that bankers use to create chaos on earth. Look not at the promises of it, but at the result of its actions. Namely, it led Germany into being a part of the criminal spectacle that ravaged European cities in the last century, killed tens of millions of Slavs and Aryans, cemented the rule of banking cartel worldwide and led to the creation of the jewish state.
I thought you agreed that NOSTR has objective advantages when compared to fediverse? Namely that you don't need to create new identities from scratch if you are being censored by a server/relay.