I’m interested to hear what strategy you would use to prevail in convincing an elite class of people with control over 95% of the wealth and 100% of the policy and governing power that they should share anything with you?

Yes. I think this is a fundamental problem and probably rebellion against unrelenting and unreasonable fascist rule will be the only remedy unfortunately. If the governance is wise they will stop just short of oppression that results in revolt. People will suffer for ages under draconian rule as long as subsistence is reasonably tenable.

Polls are schemes to beg for zaps.

Make compatible clients but do not emulate and clone, that is not attractive. Each client needs a specialty, even if it is a limitation.

Your client only shows long notes? Fine

Solely short notes is fine too.

Just pictures? Good.

Only for voice message? That's fantastic.

Just for channels and groups? Great idea.

Didn't say it wouldn't impact the financial system. It surely will. Just not likely from within or only to a lesser degree (jurisdictional arbitrage).

Mainly parallel economies. Before there were no decentralized permissionless digital currencies. Now those who want to have the ability to opt-out in part or fully

It's more a logical observation/description

Some people cater to the idea you are saying. A sort of political trojan horse. I personally think that is a bit naive. Bitcoin will not be allowed unrestrained in white markets. Too powerful for those in power. Over time it will be pushed out or only allowed as a shadow of itself (think ETFs, licensed custodians, and burdensome tax requirements)

Thus Bitcoin/Monero/crypto core use is ultimately for spaces outside and between white markets

Is a community living in a cabins in the wilderness "society" , or does he mean institutions like police, universities, the church etc....

Bringing back #Bitcoin #SkepticismSundays 😎

One of the things that showed me the intellectual honesty of the Monero community and helped to force the community to stay grounded in reality and always laser focused on their core ethos was their weekly "Skepticism Sunday" Reddit threads. These threads allowed the community to come together, ask hard and skeptical questions about the design of Monero, the privacy provided, the economic approach, and much more.

In my time in Bitcoin I've never seen anything similar, but the nuanced and high-signal crowd on Nostr seems like a perfect fit to fire things up and see how it goes.

The goal of this thread (which I'll post weekly on Sunday's) is for discussing the uncertainties, shortcomings, and concerns some may have about Bitcoin. Things like what makes it difficult for you to use Bitcoin, what pain-points you have, etc.

NOT the positive aspects of it.

Discussing things with a critical thinking approach and level-headed discussion helps us learn where Bitcoin and its community can improve and go from there.

P.S. -- I try to take a break from social media on Sundays so I will follow up and reply whwre I can tomorrow!

Does anyone have an opinion on Caroll Quigley's comments on 19th century liberalism? What does he mean here by "society"?

Just as the negative idea of the nature of evil flowed from the belief that human nature was good, so the idea of liberalism flowed from the belief that society was bad. For, if society was bad, the state, which was the organized coercive power of society, was doubly bad, and if man was good, he should be freed, above all, from the coercive power of the state. Liberalism was the crop which emerged from this soil. In its broadest aspect liberalism believed that men should be freed from coercive power as completely as possible. In its narrowest aspect liberalism believed that the economic activities of man should be freed completely from "state interference." This latter belief, summed up in the battle-cry "No government in business," was commonly called "laissez-faire." Liberalism, which included laissez-faire, was a wider term because it would have freed men from the coercive power of any church, army, or other institution, and would have left to society little power beyond that required to prevent the strong from physically oppressing the weak.

#History

#Liberalism

#CarollQuigley

#TragedyAndHope

"When we are saying this cannot be accomplished, this cannot be done, then we are short-changing ourselves. My brain, it cannot process failure. It will not process failure. Because if I have to sit there and face myself and tell myself, 'You're a failure,' I think that is almost worse than death.”

- Kobe Bryant

I don't hate the overall direction they are pushing toward less government control. I think it is a net positive for us. I agree with you; there is a bit of cultish behavior that I also observe.

Technically, they are also not wrong. We are living in a very corrupt system. We need a bit of an antithesis to challenge the current thesis, so we can have some kind of synthesis. 🤔

I still don't understand the anarchist position. Do they want all the rights and no government? If so, who would protect their rights? Mafia?

As a project, GrapheneOS continues to grow with exceptionally loyal users, and it is easy to understand.

We are not some hobby or experimental OS. We are a work of (almost) 10 years of mobile and Android security research, with paid developers, members from many branches of computer and security expertise and volunteer moderators. Everything GrapheneOS has and will implement is added to target the current threat landscape, and is designed to combat real threats. Our security developments aren't to combat irrelevant, baseless 'what-if' scenarios or create easily attacked obscurity tactics and security theater features. We are not scammers who rely on telling you that you'll be "bulletproof" or "untraceable" unlike what came before GrapheneOS.

We are not some average AOSP distribution simply taking the Android base, piling other apps or flawed, insecure additions and treating them as our features. This is not innovation. GrapheneOS changes the AOSP base from all levels, hardening the most exploited components or replacing them with extra secure alternatives that we maintain or have even developed from the ground up. Projects like Hardened Malloc, Vanadium, Camera app and PDF viewer are some users will reap the benefits of in their day to day lives. Other OS's taking such work shows how valuable this work has been.

GrapheneOS is one of the only open-source projects to trailblaze mobile security, from implementing a lock screen bypass fix before Google, reporting numerous security vulnerabilities including ones used by companies attempting to attack us, and adding enhancements upstream to numerous open source projects. GrapheneOS is the first and still the only platform to have ARM hardware Memory Tagging Extensions implemented in production with the Pixel 8 and also the only browser in production when counting Vanadium as well. If you look at the project's socials for this, you will see additions like these have been planned years beforehand.

The foresight the project has for what we should implement should tell you what the experience and skills of the team members are. GrapheneOS is here to stay, and the work done will be around to stay even longer. Even if you don't use the OS you have reaped benefits of the work. It's never too late to understand what you are missing out.

#GrapheneOS