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Does anyone side with the side of Bitcoin Core devs on the node wars? I’m on the knots side of history, but am genuinely curious if theres another side of the story I haven’t considered.

#bitcoin #knots #core

I have am currently running bitcoin core. It took about 2 weeks to download blockchain. Would be great to have a video showing the basics of how to switch the data over to knots.

Knots is cool project but have only 1 dev. Core have more eyes looking at the codebase and thus offers more assurances.

Path of No Return for Core is Self Evident:

malware releases, dissent suppression, sealed echo chamber, censorship of critical voices.

Run Knots!

So if I set my fee to 4000 sats/KvB in this new unit of measurement ... that equates to 4 sats / vB in the old unit of measure ?

Hi. Thank you for all the information.recenly I bought a pi5 umbrel to run a bitcoin knots.

So after downloading and installing. I also run a lightning node. So I have my seed words. My question is : in the lightning node there are 2 wallets one is on chain BTC wallet and the other one is lightning. If I keep my sats in that bitcoin wallet ,on chain ,on that node ,what the difference between that and a hardware wallet ? Is it safe

Ok diving in a bit more- seems like the raspberry pi is one of the cheapest ways to do this ~$100 but it does look pretty techie (to me anyway)

A more non techie way is the start9 embassy pro- seems pretty plug in and play?

I will probably go with the non techie way but it does still seem like it’s pretty hard for “most” people to run a node that will actually help. Does this sound about right?

Also I didn’t really know about this whole liquidity and routing fees- it defo does seem quite complex to run a node properly- do you see this getting easier ever? (I kind of pictured most businesses being able to do this eventually etc)

Knots Node question on fee setting ...... 4 sats/vB = X sats/KvB . What does X equal.

Who out there has ever sent Bitcoin via a Bitcoin Knots Node ? I don't understand this "sats/Kvb" unit of measurement.

Thanks this clarified a lot…

On another note- I am looking for the easiest and cheapest way to run a node so that anyone can do it, even if they’re not techy or have much BTC.

Do you happen to know what that method would be? Is it this one I just shared or is there a better way I’m missing?

Can you elaborate more on why its a twisted view and how does the age contribute here, if its mostly following core...

I didn't come across it before the opreturn debate, but just as a newcomer to the github repo it looks like there arent any contributers (see righthand side, under the release), not sure why this is hidden on the repo - its usually visible in repos with more contributers.

Im not trtying to shit on this, just trying to get more opinions... I think its great that knots exists and that there is an alternative, I just cant be convinced at the moment that this is some final solution. Its good to have conversations about this imo...

I think you are right, the main issue I see is that we don't really have a mature well maintained alternative bitcoin implementation. Knots is just a fork of core, maintained by basically one guy (also with ego issues imo), so its not a long term solution, unless it attracts more developers. I will probably also start running knots, just to signal the disagreement, but then what, lets say core "apologizes", we all switch back to core and wait for the next dispute again. I really like libbitcoin, since its a total rewrite and an actual alternative, but its still not a full user friendly implementation... so yeah, idk to be honest 😅

So I’ve been trying to download Knots for over a week (it’s really slow for some reason!)

But just wondering if anyone has done this to store on a hard drive and if that even does anything/ if there’s a point to it?

I do want to get a Start9 or something and do it properly I just wanted a quick free easy way to do it so I could share it with others- but I’m not sure this is it??

Unfortunately, it’s all in RAID.

So it’s still 37.5 mb/ ejaculation 😂

i would make this if i knew i wasnt going to be asked to make 50 more or have to listen to the crying of siblings as they destroy each others' stuff.

(of course ill probably still attempt it. wish me luck! 🤞)

Wich node OS did you install on it?

What’s the tldr?

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Op_Return was a misguided gift that was unnecessary back in 2014 and is unnecessary today… might even call it a mistake…

But if you want a bigger Op_Return limit then go pivot to BCash with Roger Ver.

The Op_Return limit deters abuse by Spammers.

Vitalik was interested in building ETH using Op_Return but decided against it for reasons that I suspect had to do with the 40byte limit and the fact that Bitcoin Devs shunned his ideas. Getting rid of the limit completely is just asking for some Spammy L2 to start dumping on Bitcoin.

Finite limits are the most sensible policies for full nodes to run regarding Op_Return.

People should also take Luke’s other filtering proposals seriously to minimize other Spam abuse.

We should do everything we can to encourage constructive use of Bitcoin, not encourage degenerate vanity and waste of an extremely valuable resource.