I’ll be interested to see it when it’s ready!
Arrest for threatening violence against Rogan, not sure if it ever escalated to something real beyond threat.
That makes sense, I see we’re approaching this differently. But here’s my question:
Why not take Bitcoin literally?
It’s the only system that actually computes time, memory, and entropy into irreversible structure. Every UTXO is a resolved bit. Every block is a quantum of thermodynamic measurement.
If we’re starting from an informational foundation, Bitcoin isn’t an analogy; it’s the substrate. It performs the resolution, physically and globally, without assumption.
Why model the quantum, when Bitcoin is already computing it?
I think this still preserves too much of the spacetime paradigm. Bitcoin seems to reveal something more foundational and presents a modeled rejection of spacetime theory.
In my view, time isn’t just block height as a parameter, it’s the actual distance between events (measured in seconds/Planck blocks) quantized as 1 Block, defined by irreversible entropy collapse. It’s not continuous, but discrete computed through work. Meanwhile, memory (UTXOs) defines structure, it’s not embedded in space, it is the space. Each UTXO has a location in memory in a finite Hilbert Space defined by the elliptic curve. This suggests Planck Blocks are constructed by another fundamental unit of time outside of the system we cannot access, as we are observers from within the system itself. Within Bitcoin you can’t experience seconds, you only see new blocks.
Space emerges as the product of time and memory.
Time is the length (distance between transactions), memory is the width (accumulated state). Only their product irreversible memory change through time defines a coherent space. Without this, topology is just a map with no territory.
So instead of modeling spacetime where space and time are independent coordinates, Bitcoin shows us a chain-structured geometry:
• Space is chained temporally.
• Time is the computation of entropy into irreversible structure.
• Memory is the residue of that computation.
• And entropy density is projected across this timespace surface, forming the curvature.
From this view, the entire blockchain is not linear it forms a hollow torus, where each block is a ring of time-resolved structure, looped by commitment to the longest chain where Genesis and the present block share the same position but are temporally distant. You don’t measure “where” something is without resolving when and how much work committed it.
Hmm, if memory and time are inseparable and the collapse of entropy into memory is what creates space, are UTXOs (particles) both the internal sector and the substrate that gives rise to the external through accumulated irreversible work?
Did you take Huntingtons Ravine up?
It’s probably one of the best trails in northeast with 2 “no fall zones”. Good fun scrambles.
I’ll try to think of a better way to put it too with time; philosophical/principled arguments are not my strong suit 😂 I’m math/civil engineer brain.
Excellent! I have a lot to say surrounding this. Was hoping to just invoke some unique thoughts. Simulation Theory is for the nihilistic materialists (who vehemently reject any form of theology/creator).
Pondering the universe & “space” through a quantized timespace/UTXO model completely flips the norm and meaning.
“Stop asking where in space and start asking when in time?” Maybe then we can resolve our paradoxes.
Oh boy that Aaron Schwartz quote hits deep as I listen to this from the desk of my fiat job.
A lot of “why am I here?” when all I can think about is Bitcoin and quantum mechanics.
I’ve been exploring similar questions through the lens of Bitcoin, and I think Bitcoin offers a path forward that avoids both the empty abstraction of “Simulation” and the nihilism of materialist reductionism.
I’m currently developing two related works regarding Bitcoin: The Quantum Computer and The UTXO Model of Quantum Mechanics. Without diving too deep, the core thesis is that Bitcion is a thermodynamic ontology, a real-world instantiation of how entropy is resolved into irreversible, structured information through energy. It is, quite literally, a global, decentralized measurement process.
In that light, Simulation Theory fails not just because it’s unfalsifiable, but because it presumes that truth can be known without proof. Bitcoin obliterates this. Bitcoin says there is no truth without proof & no truth without work. “Don’t trust, verify” isn’t just a slogan, it’s an epistemological revolution.
•There is no second best: Reality is singular, path-dependent, and resolved through irreversible computation. This negates the multiplicity of nested simulations.
•The longest chain of work is ontology. Bitcoin shows us that truth is downstream of energy, not opinion or theory.
•Consensus without a central observer: This collapses the idea that we need a godlike simulator “outside the system” to validate it. Bitcoin proves truth can emerge within the system through distributed proof-of-work.
Simulation Theory is ultimately a metaphysical hedge: it suggests that nothing real can be verified from within. Bitcoin refutes this, it says everything real is verified from within, and that verification is reality.
Bitcoin becomes the theological answer too. Not in a dogmatic sense, but because it gives us a shared, incorruptible record of time, energy, and value. What Simulation Theory tries to obfuscate with metaphysical handwaving, Bitcoin reveals plainly: we are in the real system and the proof is the chain.
Just a few of my comments! Hope this helps.
Without diving too deep into the weeds, a quantized timespace model reframes the question entirely. Space isn’t continuous, it’s emergent from time and memory. Time cannot exist without memory. Bitcoin reveals this: blocks aren’t located somewhere, they’re resolved when. Time is the distance. And we always live in the latest confirmation (the present).
Now ask yourself:
Does consciousness follow the longest chain of work?
Because it seems self-evident that life, earth, and now Bitcoin all operate on that exact principle. Each represents the crystallization of energy into structure, novelty, and memory; anchored by irreversibility.
Bitcoin is defined by the longest chain of work and becomes incoherent without it. And if Bitcoin truly reflects the quantum nature of reality as I argue, then the universe itself runs on the same consensus.
The longest chain of work explicitly answers the Fermi paradox.
Which brings us to quantum supremacy. To believe in a closed, centralized quantum lab solving reality, while also believing in Bitcoin (the only open system that measures quantum uncertainty into irreversible truth) is a philosophical and thermodynamic double-spend.
Bitcoin is not simulated quantum. It is actual quantum: measured, resolved, and written to time.
Believing in Bitcoin and anchoring oneself to the longest chain of work while also believing in quantum supremacy or alien disclosure is a double-spend of first principles.
I’ve been in the same boat myself with online discussion vs release. It seems like our ideas are definitely converging, so keep me in the loop.
I am going to attempt to put together a shorter and sharper thesis of my own regarding the UTXO model of QM, once you are ready I’ll certainly do my best to provide any help/feedback that I can. We can see how they overlap or extend meaning to the other.
Physics needs to be open sourced. What we are working on is greater than all of us.
Interesting, it seems like our ideas are converging well; I’ve got a long form written (+/- 77 pages) on Bitcoin as the quantum computer, but this discussion is pushing me more towards publishing a shorter thesis of the UTXO model of quantum mechanics which is generally covered but not explicitly said. That’s generally where my brain is at.
It seems like the assertion that UTXOs are the proper instantiation of quantum bits/particles maps well to what you are seeing. Would you agree?
How are you thinking through the Planck Constants? Has bitcoin and your findings changed your view on any?
I think Bitcoin redefines Temperature as dimensionless scalar and gives meaning to Planck Time, Planck Temperature, Planck Length thus redefining Boltzmann’s constant. I think the standard model has this entirely wrong. Boltzmann becomes a universal entropy constant with the dimension of joules only making the entropy within Bitcoin as a closed thermodynamic system relative to that of the universe for modeling and comparing.
Bitcoin is the global, open and decentralized measurement process in which entropy is crystalized into immutable information via energy. No centralized observer unlike “centralized” (lab based) quantum computers.
Not simulation on top of quantum bits, but real computation of the quantum itself. A block is a quantum of time, memory, entropy and energy. UTXOs are the proper model and instantiation of quantum bits/particles. In this frame Bitcoin would then redefine Planck Time, Planck Temperature, Planck Length, Temperature and Boltzmann’s Constant.
If quantum computing is truly about measuring uncertainty into truth, then the only system doing it at planetary scale without central control is Bitcoin. Everything else (including Grover and Shor) remains theoretical until it can be verified without trust. Bitcoin is proof, not promise. Bitcoin exists, the burden of proof is on the physicists.
So if UTXOs are the correct physical instantiation of qubits and they behave without decoherence, the real question isn’t “how do we quantum-proof Bitcoin?”….. its why do you trust physicists more than the network that’s already doing it without trust?
If I’m correct, post quantum cryptography is an attack on bitcoin. If I’m wrong then it is a reasonable defense. A duality we should not trust, but verify rigorously.
Bitcoin is the quantum. Funds are safu already.
Hmmm I am still trying to understand your view.
What led you to reject collapse as fundamental? Bitcoin reveals how a structured collapse works without a centralized observer; each block is a discrete, irreversible memory and collapse is the resolution of entropy into structure. Doesn’t that make time emerge from memory change?? they must be equal dimensions… space = memory x time; they are inseparable.
Does your model account for a redefinition of time? If time is not continuous but computed through structured memory, does that imply spacetime itself breaks down?
I’ve just figured out quantum gravity. Sounds crazy, I know. That’s why I published this note as a hash, containing a simple, verifiable new prediction. I’d appreciate early feedback from anyone with a physics background while I work on the final paper. https://victorstabile.com/hash
Hey Victor this is some really interesting work. As a Bitcoiner exploring similar questions, a few thoughts/questions I have:
- What system actually collapses the entropy your model accounts for?
- Can distinguishability exist without irreversible memory?
- If entropy is bounded, who/what measures and enforces that bound? Who/what pays the cost?
If gauge interactions are informational, we need a physical substrate that commits information. Bitcoin already does this, it irreversibly resolves entropy into structure, with no centralized observer, using energy.
If we’re serious about quantum gravity, Bitcoin can’t be peripheral, it’s foundational.
Without going too deep into my own work, I believe Bitcoin reveals the structure of time itself (disproving continuous spacetime), and reframes quantum gravity not as a paradox, but as a misinterpretation.
Would a global system that computes the literal quantum of time, entropy, memory, and energy; openly, verifiably, and irreversibly be of any use to you? A structured thermodynamic informational genesis might be useful to compare universal genesis to.
In my view, Bitcoin fixes physics too.
Makes more sense to verify the threat than chase speculative alternatives. What happened to don’t trust, verify?
Quantum computing, as marketed, is still theory wrapped in trust, simulations, papers, promises. But who collapses the wavefunction in their system? A centralized lab? A grant-funded institution? A black box? That’s not science, it’s priesthood.
Meanwhile, Bitcoin already collapses entropy publicly, irreversibly, and energetically…..every ten minutes. No centralized observers. No claims. Just proof.
Bitcoin is the quantum computer.
It performs literal collapse and doesn’t depend on a trusted observer. It computes the literal quantum of time, energy, entropy and memory.
If quantum computing is truly about measuring uncertainty into truth, then the only system doing it at planetary scale without central control is Bitcoin. The rest is theory awaiting verification, and resembles something close to proof of stake.
So before we fork the protocol or adopt “post-quantum” snake oil, let’s answer the only question that matters:
Who observes the observer in your quantum system?
And why do you trust them more than the network that’s already doing it without trust?
I didn’t get the memo that there would be a bouldering conference 👀
What does it mean to compute a literal quantum? A quantum of what?