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I guess I'm one of those #vtubers. Having fun talking about general topics, vrchat/similar, and games. Also #indiedev #gamedev. You can call me: Freak فْرِيكٌ フリク (still learning Nihongo). #envtuber #podcast #gaming #gamedev

This is why I don't use Ditto even tho I want to. I don't care about other protocols, let alone having them intertwined with each other.

Yes, on one hand, it's cool, but on the other hand "who the f r u? f off".

There's local caching on my end, but the user deletes it of course, and ya as you said it's not a good idea to burden the user handle such a thing to have a proper site/app experience.

I'll be doing remote caching, but doing it in a way that it's only to run it in parallel to what's already there, where if my server goes poof, the site/app still functions, just not optimally.

And now after a discussion, it'd evolve into giving the user the ability to changing to different caching servers/services too, or turn it off completely if they want. Here's the previous talk about it:

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and

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Pretty much.

Aside from that, it's freaking amazing outside of that as well.

What started of as 'free speech twitter' is now 'yea, build whatever you want on it'. There are now:

- Quick social posts (like: twitter)

- Quick media posts (like: instagram)

- Forums (like: reddit)

- Job listings (job sites)

- Stores/marketplaces (Shopify)

- Video posting/watching (youtube)

- Streaming (twitch)

- Blog posting (Medium)

- Website creation (wordpress)

- Funding (kickstarter)

- Creator subscription (Patreon)

- Game mods (moddb)

- Website domain

- git and ui/ux for it (github)

- File hosting (google drive)

- Document signing (docu sign)

- Music hosting/listening (Spotify)

- Some hookups with games

- a lot more that i forgot or don't know

It's absolutely amazing =3

It does!

While watching, my thoughts went:

"It's a social game?"

"It's a city builder?"

"It's Sims?"

"It's an adventure game?"

"It's GTA?"

"It's a stealth action game?"

Like damn, this game has a lot x3

Hopefully it turns out as awesome as it looks =3

A normal post, like this right now what I'm typing?

I guess it can be possible, but don't think that'd fly with relays in general I'd imagine... I think.

However, if you're talking about what's being posted in the current system of forums on nostr, a simple solution to that is to also have that system running as well (if people choose to use clients that use that system, for some weird reason, they can and it'd appear in the future system, since it's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's bad for that user using it and them choosing to use it). So ya, old posts wouldn't necessarily be left out =)

That's why it's not reliant on it. If it gets attacked then that's that, the site is still running, just not in pristine condition. That's about it.

And yeah that can work too, in the app/setting page there'd be:

Title: Caching Server [button: add]:

Subtitle: Official servers:

cahcing.degmods.com [button: unset]

Subtitle: Recommended servers:

caching.example1.com [button: set]

caching.example2.com [button: set]

caching.example3.com [button: set]

Subtitle: Custom/user servers:

input-field [button: add]

caching.exampleCustom.com [button: set]

This can be a nip too, now that I think about it.

I'm not a fan of Primal's lightning wallet kyc, and wooden recommend it to people comma but in terms of how their handling performance as a Nostr client, I might be doing the same thing if I'm understanding them right.

On my end, everything so far is pretty much on Nostr, however, there will be a normal backend/database server running alongside it, not caching the nozzle event data itself but saving event addresses, for the purpose of quickly identifying and loading in people's posts and increase reliability overall. This would be running in parallel with what's currently there.

This side supporting a traditional server is not needed for the client to work, it only enhances it, and it'd lower in cost than if it was holding all the data.

I think this approach is the best way to go about it, where it would provide the best possible experience, all the while having it still function even if that developers of it aren't around anymore (building it with this in mind as well, where even if anyone tries to take the project down, be at a person or an entity of power, even if development stops right now, or even if the team developing it myself is gone from the face of this earth, everything would still be functional. As a result, and while not desired or pursued, it's being built with the chance of me not receiving anything in return, only having the satisfaction of seeing it still being used and being unstoppable).

So current forum type content on #nostr isn't good imo, since it uses kind 1 posts (similar to what you're seeing now). Whenever the time comes to add a forum system to nostr:npub17jl3ldd6305rnacvwvchx03snauqsg4nz8mruq0emj9thdpglr2sst825x it'll either be the exact same system, but being new separate kind (same, just a different number, and maybe with extra stuff).

AND

I noticed that there are issues with someone having control over a community/space, even if someone can just make a new one with the same name, that brings in one UX issue in favor of another, and what I'm about to mention favors the other side. The issue being is that one or a group can control the details of the community/space (profile image, banner, name, description, etc) and its moderation (what gets to be seen, what doesn't, etc), and while that isn't necessarily bad, it's more of a 'sometimes its bad and sometimes it isn't', where some people would prefer if there wasn't any control and let each individual decide how to handle the previous two issue points, but that of course results in some chaos in favor of that expanded freedom.

With that said, I think the best course of action is to have both, so to what what I mentioned in the first paragraph, and also to have a another NIP running in parallel where people can post to a 'name' community/sub-forum that's based on that only, where it doesn't have to be created, but just pointed to, and its customization is up to the individual viewing it it.

Example for each:

Type 1: Someone creates 'gaming' sub-forum, how we currently know how it usually works (with a different kind of course), with a unique id for it that gets created, and people can find and start posting in/to it.

Type 2: There's no process of creating a sub-forum, someone can just create a post and point it to 'gaming' (doesn't have a unique id in a sense of a generated string).

In terms of discovery and presentation, the first type is discovered and viewed as 'sub-forum by username', indicating that it's a controlled space, while the second type is discovered/viewed as 'sub-forum', indicating no-control.

I think this is the best way to go about this. Thoughts?

#asknostr

nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7erfw36x7tnsw43z7un9d3shjqpqnxy4qpqnld6kmpphjykvx2lqwvxmuxluddwjamm4nc29ds3elyzs0yqnd9 ah, I see what the issue is. It's a bunch of big UX issues from its appearance.

1. Login in via extension/nostr leads to the subscription page. Issue one: There should be a free tier (or the other solution would be to just redirect to home with the ability to upload, but there's an issue there too in the following point).

2. Since there is no selection of a 'free' tier, clicking one of them leads to me... create an account? with a password for my nostr address? why? so that's the second issue. If I don't complete this process then it won't properly log me in.

3. After logging in, it should redirect me to home (since that's where I was), but instead, it redirects me to my dashboard/account, with no clear button to go to the home page (I have to edit the URL to go back).

4. Log out doesn't log me out (I'm using a nostr extension, alby).

Hope this feedback is useful! =3

Another use case:

I traveled, and I wanted money. I didn't have a bank account. They sent me Bitcoin, and I exchanged it for local currency, and my problem was solved.

Another:

I don't have a bank account (sleazebags) I wanted to buy a domain, I used btc to get it.

A third:

Let's say I had a bank account, but I couldn't use it to give it to a friend to buy me stuff from his area (some weird laws or tos or something), so I just sent him btc and he got me what I wanted it.

A very important fourth use case:

When I traveled a lot, I didn't need to hold cash, keep it secure somewhere, or transfer money from one bank to another (assuming I could) and lose a lot of money doing that. I just always had access to it and didn't worry about it while traveling.

What's happening around the world fifth use-case:

inflation and hyperinflation.

An even more important sixth use case:

War and fleeing from war

it's fine if they do, just want clarification to act accordingly (since there's 'free' text for everyone on the site, this may potentially be a bug / unintentional).

I guess https://nostr.build/ nostr:npub1nxy4qpqnld6kmpphjykvx2lqwvxmuxluddwjamm4nc29ds3elyzsm5avr7 isn't free anymore?

Asking me to login or create an account now, and both lead to a payment plan.

(asking because if that's the case, need to swap as a suggested service to upload media to with something else)

So about that Honey extension issue, I mean it seems like nostr can absolutely demolish them.

Install Honeystr, add stuff to cart, and add a coupon that you have to decrease the price, that coupon gets automatically published to relays. Bunch of users do this.

Other user goes to a site, adds to cart, clicks extension to search for coupons, where it's looking through relays and testing out user used coupons to find the best working one, and applies it.

No scams, all transparent, and it's the market helping itself.

#nostr #honey

Easy: zap at entrance to get funny paper monopoly money.