I miss the 90s
So much as been said about the web of trust for the past 30 years, where do I even begin? I expect you're read the wikipedia article and are familiar with PGP key signing parties. If not, start there.
Material from the 90s is outstanding on this topic, though hard to find with modern searcch engines, which prefer new content to old. Also, much of it was never on the internet, and that which was often appeared on sites that are long gone. I did a quick search of 2600 and phrack and didn't come up with anything, but I expect this is a search failure, not a failure of those publications to carry such content. The closest I found was this https://store.2600.com/products/hope-number-six-2006-breaking-down-the-web-of-trust-download
Hal Finney wrote a little piece on the topic https://nakamotoinstitute.org/library/pgp-web-of-trust-misconceptions
The w3c has their decentralized identifiers (DID), which actually looked pretty good when I briefly looked into them. https://www.w3.org/TR/did-core/
You should also be aware of what the skeptics and critics are saying.
HOPE 2020 - A Death Blow to the Web of Trust https://infocon.org/cons/2600/HOPE%202020%20(2020)/
There's an argument that the WoT both tries to break free from reliance on the government but also depends on the government. I don't agree with this, but it's absolutely something you should be aware of. https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-031-10183-0_4
If you want to go beyomd the basics, there's lots of material on roots of trust, some of which are in hardware, and the problems with said hardware. FWIW, the web of trust never went away. It's been used in many systems since **at least** the mid 90s. A good search term is PKI or public key infrastructure, perhaps combined with the buzzwords "zero trust".
If I come across any of the older materials, I'll point you to them. If you have any questions about trust models, threat models, PKI, or cryptography in general, post 'em and tag me and I'll help you out.
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I'm increasingly convinced that decentralized identity and Web of Trust are the next big things after Bitcoin. What are the best resources for learning more about Web of Trust? Particularly applied to Nostr. Bounty below :)
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We're happy to announce Mutiny Wallet is now available on iOS and Android!


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We built Mutiny to be unstoppable. To do that, we knew we had to build it first for the web, without the censorship of permissioned app stores. Today, anyone can visit app.mutinywallet.com and get a self-custodial lightning wallet that can't be shut down by Apple or Google.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mutinywallet.mutinywallet
The testflight has been out for awhile too, exclusive to our Mutiny+ users. Now available to all is our iOS Apple Store release.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mutiny-wallet/id6471030760
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More info in the blog below:
https://blog.mutinywallet.com/mutiny-wallet-android-and-ios/
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Hereโs the latest! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TOyaBdT2O2g
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Installing nostr:npub1mutnyacc9uc4t5mmxvpprwsauj5p2qxq95v4a9j0jxl8wnkfvuyque23vg with a WoT-verified software release from Zap.store by nostr:npub1wf4pufsucer5va8g9p0rj5dnhvfeh6d8w0g6eayaep5dhps6rsgs43dgh9
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