It's the fountain link! https://fountain.fm/episode/GwkMHQvCQCFjmLdqbCeT

[New Podcast] Anarchism, The Origins of #Nostr, & The Future of FOSS w/ nostr:npub1c878wu04lfqcl5avfy3p5x83ndpvedaxv0dg7pxthakq3jqdyzcs2n8avm

https://fountain.fm/episode/GwkMHQvCQCFjmLdqbCeT

I sit down with LNbits founder Ben Arc for a wide ranging and fascinating conversation about political philosophy, Nostr, and the future of FOSS/AI. This was a treat to record and I hope you enjoy! Here's a full sample of what we discussed:

- Ben’s left libertarian / anarchist lens on Bitcoin - the ultimate goal is liberty

- Stateless socialism, Marx, and Adam Smith

- Open protocols like Bitcoin / Nostr and public key cryptography replacing functions of the state

- Pierre-Joseph Proudhon: “Property is theft, property is liberty”

- Soulful vs. soul-less capital

- “The Adam Smith Invisible Bitch Slap” - Ben’s synthesis of left anarchism and Austrian/ancap thought. Open protocols, public key cryptography, FOSS create new more efficient commons in which private capital can participate. But if capital tries to co-opt the commons, it gets the Adam Smith invisible hand bitch slap (see the big blockers from Segwit2x). This creates the playing field for an actual free market

- Collaboration vs extraction - key is aligning incentives so both parties win and grow the pie

- “Value waterfalls and the remix economy”- Max’s idea of how BTC and open source protocols will evolve - similar to Stemstr. Both parties win when they collaborate are incentivized to share the same stream of files which get remixed and create thicker value waterfalls or a bigger pie for all

- Peter Kropotkin and Mutual Aid - rereading Darwin for mutual aid as a driving factor in evolution

- Karma and evolution: 1) nothing is permanent; everything is in flow; everything is relative - one order lower of complexity sees only itself + information 2) karma may be the ultimate driver/law of evolution - a system evolves in its totality toward more mutual aid and complexity

- Hegel and the Master-Slave Dialectic - exploitation requires dehumanization making both parties less in touch with reality and happy; in order for them to both be free they need to become peers. The ultimate goal is more liberation/liberty

- P2P peer relationships are the best healthiest relationships: what we see in Bitcoin and open networks

- John Nash: non oppressive mind space is healthiest - Mind on Strike: giving more people mind space allows their minds to explore and explode open; libertarianism comes from liberation and the need for some equality for this to happen.

- Is John Nash Satoshi?

- Ben’s entry to bitcoin: dorky Uk news correspondents, his students using dark markets, a hatred of banks, and Wikileaks

- The mindseed for Nostr: Ben’s Diagon Alley

- Pirate Bay and p2p markets

- Building the first twitter clone on nostr; apologies for NIP-04

- Reverting a fiatjaf hard commit led to Branle

- Securing http://nostr.com for 1 BTC

- First talk on Nostr at Paralelni Polis

- Finding the alpha with the productive nyms; spear fishing for projects; hanging out on edge of internet; if you’re sending a deck it’s generally too late for me

- Nostr and free / open / non Orwellian / non evil IoT - what all can we build with relays, web sockets, and public key crypto

- Building a new web with Nostr (e.g. see Nostr Wallet Connect and early IoT)- the old web is compromised and drowning in AI spam; dead internet theory is here; Nostr (public key crypto) for signing notes is our best defense

- http://Nostr.com is selling dope NIP-05 verifiers

- LNbits released a Nostr signing device for identity management

- Nostr is best of both worlds online - create smaller forum like communities while still riding on a global network effect

- “A better Internet is possible” - we’re not at the end of history

- FOSS, nostr, and bitcoin are viruses which infect the system: Just like the major financial institutions with Bitcoin, eventually Twitter will plug into Nostr

- Monopoly of the commons is the future; FOSS eventually swallows all (see Switzerland recently requiring the government to use FOSS)

- AI brings the age of disposable software at least at the level of building extensions

- The need for more Bitcoin and Nostr tooling in Python for the AI community so they can easily bring identity and payments / value transfer to the agents

- Max’s thesis: evolution of digital life forms : open source models will evolve into swarms of agents with value - see http://hivemind.vc/ai

- The importance of reputation in Nostr: Web of Trust as a theoretical solution; open timestamps with payment to go higher up a merkle tree; AI agent as dvm for calculating trust

- Ben is more wary of AI long term and thinks it will be more monolithic than swarm-like; perhaps it becomes a benign dictator that could kill us or just give us what we need to be happy; could be capitalism as we know it eating itself and requiring a new system?

- How the Light Gets In: philosophy festival (part of haybook festival): open AI guy calling the god AI Super Gaia

- Max’s idea on AI: there will be always trade-offs resulting in different forms of intelligence

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL0yfxDe6jE&si=FLJYbgDQVu0EIJh4

h/t nostr:npub1lunaq893u4hmtpvqxpk8hfmtkqmm7ggutdtnc4hyuux2skr4ttcqr827lj

nostr:note1kgtdwp63yfahcpssd04u42csftvlcln0led0qhwja8kkgspymm4qgz9rw9

WHO DAT?!

Stacker News AMA with nostr:npub1trr5r2nrpsk6xkjk5a7p6pfcryyt6yzsflwjmz6r7uj7lfkjxxtq78hdpu is LIVE - this will be ⚡️🔥

nostr:note1f45ww50852sl7m0nghz7huul76t2hdm4s9e07nzc4qyn3eqpjx8qg2ydsc

size

nostr:note1gm28csewv0quxtc28a96fsrrvp42dv3uvd62ce4d4zcw78m4gsrs2urjn3

The challenge of securely logging into a nostr mobile app seems to be stifling innovation/usage for a number of powerful experiences. I've run into this repeatedly over the last couple of days.

Who is actively working on solving this?

I know nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft has nsecbunker and nostr:npub1xdtducdnjerex88gkg2qk2atsdlqsyxqaag4h05jmcpyspqt30wscmntxy has nsec.app. What else is out there ?

https://zap.stream/naddr1qqjxxdt9vd3kvdpc95uxxce5956x2dty95ukxd3k94nxzvfcvejxxvpcvejxyqg4waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t09uqsuamnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0dshsygx0gknt5ymr44ldyyaq0rn3p5jpzkh8y8ymg773a06ytr4wldxz55psgqqqwens3tn974

The nostr:npub1spralxq6jlw5rdy0249vqr5sh43rfrlx2wzv3rhjjqedw559w9psrs8s72 hack week was the genesis of the Netherlands and now Brazil billboards! See all their ideas below for inspiration.

What message do you like for 🇧🇷 ?

cc nostr:npub1kmwdmhuxvafg05dyap3qmy42jpwztrv9p0uvey3a8803ahlwtmnsnhxqk9

nostr:note1ynxhrt7l3hnqe7zzjat372lzetz8ptcrl2jg8pgytgm2t332eq2qadxd28

I like to open it up to random pages - I Ching style

nostr:note195jtj4x5wpdamj274mu0sy8ukj573uqwu24vkkfsucxxvzkgcwyqvmqf4d

Yes! It's easy on browser with nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm

Not sure on mobile. Someone else was asking me this as well, so might be worth making this easier to see nostr:npub1kmwdmhuxvafg05dyap3qmy42jpwztrv9p0uvey3a8803ahlwtmnsnhxqk9

Also nostr:npub1kuy0wwf0tzzqvgfv8zpw0vaupkds3430jhapwrgfjyn7ecnhpe0qj9kdj8 had some great ideas around making it easier to see that you can zap a note from a client like nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg or nostr:npub18m76awca3y37hkvuneavuw6pjj4525fw90necxmadrvjg0sdy6qsngq955 and that the zap will go toward the project goal. Could be as simple as marking the zap in some way. Perhaps a crowdfunding NIP (is there already one?) could make this easier

Funding Secured!!! 💰 ₿ 𓅦 🇧🇷 >4.2M sats from >140 nostriches

Ask and ye shall receive! On Friday, I noticed an amazing Nostr billboard in Amsterdam put up by nostr:npub1qe3e5wrvnsgpggtkytxteaqfprz0rgxr8c3l34kk3a9t7e2l3acslezefe & based upon ideas from nostr:npub1spralxq6jlw5rdy0249vqr5sh43rfrlx2wzv3rhjjqedw559w9psrs8s72. I asked if anyone was doing something similar for Brazil, a country where awareness might really move the needle at this particular moment in time (h/t nostr:npub18pl6x2qe3en6gqx27qy50ny3urqkd5jdw8vtfdu2dsl0j8l56pvqpahesh for the mind seed). By Saturday, nostr:npub1kmwdmhuxvafg05dyap3qmy42jpwztrv9p0uvey3a8803ahlwtmnsnhxqk9 had launched a project and worked out the logistics with nostr:npub13u20998frqs538lqf4kvhfrq9t69mk9e3aczfxc9pljze290yr4q86gkaz. As of 30 mins ago, we crossed the finish line thanks to a generous contribution from nostr:npub1ug8c5wp6chs4xessrstq3mj0x0agkttey5xwk26632a2gw22de7qkfd9ry.

This is a BFD and shows the power of open networks for communication, value, and payments working symbiotically together. We literally willed an idea into existence in ~ 3 days (and I'm guessing we'll need a few more to get the art/message settled and board up).

Social media was powerful in the past, but ultimately very limited. It's one thing to rally and organize the troops. It's something else entirely to transmute that potential energy into kinetic energy via the coalescence of "real world" value. The digital world is now reshaping the physical and this is just the beginning.

Nostr, Bitcoin, and the Lightning Network together are much more powerful than anyone yet realizes 𓅦₿⚡️

nostr:note1w68gva8zf6ws72sxf4ad952wj847lxq2mgdppceqex8lmvklue0qcr28zm

I would love to see someone carry the torch with nostr:npub1stemstrls4f5plqeqkeq43gtjhtycuqd9w25v5r5z5ygaq2n2sjsd6mul5! This project is the best example of the remix economy which Nostr enables and has real legs imo

nostr:note1dvdy57fx53y0ceecewayrspp3vc9j38myenw0p7vssc8ujv52f7slz4mvl

One of the 🐐 s

Speaking of which: I love nostr:npub1stemstrls4f5plqeqkeq43gtjhtycuqd9w25v5r5z5ygaq2n2sjsd6mul5! Is anyone still working on this project? Probably the best example of the Nostr native remix economy to date

https://open.spotify.com/album/2MCgo8izsVMdDEKLgaBnJF?si=9DSay--GQoWkQVn75D-mZA

We've got >3M sats from 138 contributors! Who's gonna help us get over the finish line to put up a Nostr billboard in Brazil? 🇧🇷 𓅦

https://geyser.fund/project/nostrifybrazil via nostr:npub1kmwdmhuxvafg05dyap3qmy42jpwztrv9p0uvey3a8803ahlwtmnsnhxqk9

How much of this bump do you think was actually new users from Brazil?

My guess is that most of these were Bitcoiners reactivating after reading about Telegram and Brazil. Could also be a post conference bump. And, ofc, we've been growing steadily for ~6mos. It seems like folks are returning and sticking around due to better app experiences, interoperability, etc. One great example is that returning Bitcoiners are now able to link their npub to their nostr:npub1v5ufyh4lkeslgxxcclg8f0hzazhaw7rsrhvfquxzm2fk64c72hps45n0v5 account and a have much richer experience with a pre-populated social graph like Breaker back in the day.

Wdyt? If these are Brazilians, where can I find them?

nostr:note1qqq0rgzjgjvx2rxxk9rqjnsrdrd2kzku8dp0pscekxejwjydfnasnvyrmp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShWTcxqUqvw

open code + open data --> digital life evolves

This reminds me a lot of my convo with nostr:npub1lunaq893u4hmtpvqxpk8hfmtkqmm7ggutdtnc4hyuux2skr4ttcqr827lj

https://fountain.fm/episode/E8PW5z2yVPzNBN2b44Kr

nostr:note1pywxekwjyp5c97ys3cztnr03rx6dhd9wja6lcxz3zaxjyex30wzqk3ku8a

Funding Match Secured 💰 ₿ 𓅦

Big shout to nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s Let's keep going! We're about 2M sats away. Who's up next?

https://tidal.com/browse/track/4527443?u

nostr:note1utdlltng245fv2e87ymkrjeyjx463ak6vsca5nuqmwwpddd3ddnqyuc98r

Ask and ye shall receive - well done nostr:npub1kmwdmhuxvafg05dyap3qmy42jpwztrv9p0uvey3a8803ahlwtmnsnhxqk9!

I just made an initial donation. I'll match another 420k sats if folks donate today. We're currently at ~680k sats. Let's make this happen 🇧🇷🚀

https://geyser.fund/project/nostrifybrazil/

nostr:note1l0g3g49xg7qsgl3k7nlzmfe4efsn0ky38qvs59p2r4y74ksx5x4s78txn8

This is amazing! I didn't realize it was real.

Is anyone working on crowdfunding a similar billboard for 🇧🇷?

cc nostr:npub1qe3e5wrvnsgpggtkytxteaqfprz0rgxr8c3l34kk3a9t7e2l3acslezefe nostr:npub1kmwdmhuxvafg05dyap3qmy42jpwztrv9p0uvey3a8803ahlwtmnsnhxqk9 nostr:npub1kuy0wwf0tzzqvgfv8zpw0vaupkds3430jhapwrgfjyn7ecnhpe0qj9kdj8 nostr:npub1ug8c5wp6chs4xessrstq3mj0x0agkttey5xwk26632a2gw22de7qkfd9ry nostr:npub1j8y6tcdfw3q3f3h794s6un0gyc5742s0k5h5s2yqj0r70cpklqeqjavrvg

nostr:note1hx8pgnkqsrvmldpujzhz89zdzyr98ptrayk0zdsfsuht5ytfc05qe6ve54

This is a really great idea! Lmk if you end up building a Nostr Orkut clone for 🇧🇷 The window is open to get meaningful traction quickly

nostr:note1n6skacrkqg29ctkvc3l2swn070fsd4ys5qh3quwt6fty00n964aqpdtsdg

This was high school for me haha