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bitcoin maximalists are all lying scum

maxis made up a game where they win by deciding the rules for everyone else. they invented a rule that says the winner has the highest marketcap and every other project that doesn't have the highest marketcap has to be the loser. why the fuck would I care about that? it doesn't mean anything to me. if it has a highest marketcap but it doesn't do what I expect it to do, why should I think it's the best?

hopefully a new bar of soap. my house guest used my nice soap that I left in the shower and now it's TAINTED and I had to throw it away

vitalik was a bitcoin developer. he was going to extend the functionality of bitcoin and the other developers were too busy blocking the stream to sell liquid. they had to get rid of him. fast forward today and EVM based solutions have more bitcoins deposited into them than the whole lightning network and several independent teams are desperately trying to staple the EVM to the bitcoin network to make up for lost time. ethereum literally gets used more to transact bitcoins than lightning and liquid. it's absolutely pathetic and it could have easily been avoided.

while that was going on, bitcoin lost its grip on the black market by failing to deliver solid privacy and a good enough UX for ecommerce. while the bitcoin developers were busy zapping each other and licking 9-volt batteries for fun, everyone on the DNM forums learned to avoid bitcoin. they wrote it out of all of their guides. when newcomers arrive asking questions, they are warned that they must never use bitcoin. markets that allow bitcoin are treated with suspicion, and markets that don't allow it at all are more highly recommended.

everyone who pushed this lightning garbage should be held accountable. bitcoin dominance could have easily stayed over 90% if not for lightning. the worst part is loads of people warned against lightning ahead of time. they all said this would happen and they were met with extreme hostility.

privacy by default, domains, dexes with deep enough liquidity. you can figure out which ones. if the bitcoin devs never got sidetracked by this lightning garbage and if the community didn't push so many people away we'd probably have all of that on bitcoin already. bitcoin's biggest competitor narrowly escaped nonexistence over it. can you imagine a world where bitcoin devs didn't start huffing paint and ethereum simply never got created?

bitcoin literally doesn't do what I need it to do. I use other coins. I USE OTHER COINS. maybe if you spent less time chasing pipedreams that are always 18 months away, and acting like a fucking clown, people would actually stick around and work on these things instead of leaving.

maximalism is when I want to buy timtams. I just like them so much. you tell me that kroger is the best grocery store, there is no second best, and people who don't shop there are just ignorant. but they don't have timtams at kroger. then you tell me I'm wrong for wanting timtams. this is when I stop believing your claims that kroger is the best grocery store, which confuses and upsets you.

I want a blockchain that lets me buy domains. there's two blockchains that resolve domains in brave browser and neither of these blockchains are bitcoin. why should I be a maxi if it stops me from getting what I want?

I'm gonna keep signal for only people who personally know me and are supposed to have my phone number already. for strangers I'll keep using XMPP

maxis keep underestimating the effect that ETFs will have on bitcoin development. in the event of a split, all the custodians can just tell their clients that the coins on the wrong fork will go in the garbage. and since those custodians are huge banks, they're already really good at infiltrating stuff if they haven't done this to bitcoin already (they have, lol). ETFs are an actual the-sky-is-falling emergency right now.

nerds on nostr think that computer programs are somehow going to defeat totalitarianism. they couldn't be more wrong. you'll have to do a lot more than promoting computer programs.

from now on wallstreet has final say over the outcome of any contentious hard fork. ETFs = bitcoin + banking = cancer

there was a narrative change where people were fooled into thinking it's

technically impossible for lots of people to self-custody small amounts of BTC

even if they wanted to. now lots of bitcoin maximalists sincerely think

sovereignty doesn't matter for balances underneath an unspecified

threshold. the narrative is a lie. you get the narrative if you go balls

deep into a scaling solution built on payment channels. different

scaling solutions like rollups don't have the limitations that payment channels have.

listen, I first used bitcoin in 2012. my first wallet was bitcoin-qt and my second wallet was multibit HD. I have been hearing this for years and years. bitcoin will implement all the wonderful things that alts have done and make them all obsolete. except it never happens. the only example I can think of is groestl being brave enough to try out segwit before bitcoin, and that's not really even a good example. what I have seen is the bitcoin developers have a terminal case of not-invented-here syndrome. bitcoin has a sidechain with permissionless validation and full smart contract capability RIGHT NOW and nobody will even talk about it because it's similar to ethereum, and we just can't have that. half life 3 will come out before any bitcoin developers give us anything that is as good as monero.

I am not against L2 scaling. I'm against lightning. no matter what they tape and glue to it you still have to buy at least one UTXO on L1 to own your own money on lightning. there is simply not enough room for everyone to do that. and this is the worst problem, but not the only one. lightning is the wrong answer. you have the opportunity to do sidechains that aren't consortium based, you could be the first people who make rollups with permissionless sequencers, you could do drivechains if you get some BIPs activated. there are lots of other options. do that instead.

oh my fucking god. you people all follow a script. ecash is custodial and can be rugged. why haven't you thrown it in the trash? what's wrong with you man?

the creator of this maxi circlejerk echochamber is literally trying to make everyone who doesn't use bitcoin into a refugee and the bitcoin network cannot absorb more than a tiny fraction of them. and here you are telling me about these half baked solutions with intractable flaws as if that's just going to magically make the problem go away.

this is why you maxis are all the same. you want me to completely stop doing what I'm doing as if it's immoral or something and then lecture me about time preference while I'm supposed to wait in the soup line for a chance to buy a UTXO on your gimped network, and how I'm supposed to be grateful for the opportunity.

you still have to create your own onchain transaction to fund your own channel. blocks don't have enough room for everyone to do that. if all the monero and ethereum users became refugees like what fiatjaf wants, only a tiny fraction of them would be able to use lightning non-custodially.

I'm getting really sick of this argument.

>yeah you don't really have to use a custodial wallet, just wait in line for a blind auction after you check the fee chart and hope that 10,000 people don't want to do it at the same time as you

yeah no thanks

there literally isn't enough room on the bitcoin blockchain for all these refugees to use it correctly.

- buy your bitcoins without KYC

- coinjoin them

- open your own channels

- maintain your own wallet

- manage your own channel balances

even if everyone is neckbeard enough to know how to do this correctly (they aren't), the blocks simply do not have enough room. 99% of these people would be forced onto custodial lightning wallets and they would have no sovereignty or privacy. maxis like this must know they are lying and being destructive. I think he is a state actor. no good person would act like this.