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Vitor Pamplona
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Nostr's Chief Android Officer - Amethyst Social

How do we hide the date/time of a DM message?

I can see that you like good UX. I just wished you just asked for... say... to increase the space between the text and the image directly... instead of this snarky post:

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And since you like good UX, you should know that this is not how you ask for improvements from anyone, anywhere. You ask for empathy, but you didn't offer any of it to those building the product.

That post could have simply been: "Hey Vitor, can we increase the distance here between the text and the image?". That would have created a more productive conversation. But no, your wording wanted to shame me and the "product". Basically a "look how bad this is!". Maybe I deserve it, maybe I don't. But that language goes against what you are preaching all along.

On a last note, Amethyst is here it push for everything, all at once, and move forward as fast as we can. That comes at some UX expense, as you realized, and that's ok. With more help, we can probably offer more UX improvements, but at this time, the majority of the development is still on new features. We are still on version 0.x for a reason. We are not even half the way of an actual product yet.

Yep, that's the thing I was trying to avoid. I don't like disregarding what authors do, even in these small details. If people add a line, there should be a line there. But I will do some research to see how to improve it.

Do you count just anyone in any list you follow or do you want to break it down per list?

I think the issue is on how to link the list choice and the relay choice. Does each list have their relays? Or maybe each list have relay list options? Or maybe the relay list is global and works for all lists?

Making that make sense in the UI is a challenge.

Amethyst is the Swiss Army Knife of Nostr clients.

GM.

You can already do that with lists. Even if you have not created lists yet, you can pick between Global and Follow lists to see notifications from. If you want the feature right now, you can create a list of the people you care most and that list will appear in the Notification filter.

The only issue is that you need to make a list in a list client, like highlighter.com or listr.lol

Yep, it's similar to how GitHub and Reddit do it. But in Nostr, reaction counts are less interesting because anyone can create an account, inflate numbers and change a reader's perception of how the post was received.

In Nostr, it is more important to know which person provided those reactions than in apps that centralize identity.

> I feel like the reactions take up a lot of unnecessary space

They are designed to be a little party about your post. In other apps, reactions are relegated as useless. And because of their UI choice, they definitely are useless. We are trying to bring meaningful reactions back. This means there should be an easy way to immediately extract meaning from the reaction set. The current interface is not perfect by any means (especially because this is mostly an old design updated constantly over the weeks), but that's what we are going for.

> should maybe be collapsed into a consolidated view that can be expanded to see them all if the user wants to.

That already happens in the posts in the regular feed. When users come to notifications, they want to see everything that has nappened. Hiding things that happened because we couldn't find a nicer UI yet is not a good idea.

> The stats would feel more natural below the post than above it.

I agree. But this is "new". We changed some of the reaction design in the feed and also added inline replies at the top which should have inverted the reaction set look in notifications. We will get there some day.

> there is no space between the pfp images so it just looks very busy and cluttered.

I tested adding some spaces, but it made the experience in low-end phones (which already don't have much space) a lot worse. So, we reverted until we get a better idea.

> The badge on the pfp has a lot going on and could be simplified.

On this image, it's just the profile picture and the badge uptop so you know which ones are the ones you follow. I am not sure why it is a "lot"

> And there is also not enough space between the text and the image in the actual post.

That is a problem between clients. In your post, there is no new line between "I’ve been missing you. " and the image url. So, it should be as close to the text as possible to correctly represent what the author wanted. Adding space is not what the author wanted to do.

It doesn't matter. Download counts are largely inflated, double counted, faked, etc. I can pay to get 1m download in my app. And Web apps are never downloaded. Since lots of people do use PWAs right now, there is no way to know, not even a ballpark number.

No.. not at all. Any small relay operator and even clients are at the merci of the state.