😂😂 I knew I saw this before

I might be the last only zapper standing…

Is it just me, or does it seem like everyone is super reluctant to monetize services and relays on #Nostr?

If we can’t make these things sustainable then we will either lose them, or they will stay nothing more than a weird little corner of the internet with lots of hope but no chance of ever scaling.

I still haven’t seen the basic model of zap sharing tried by any major client or relay. But I DO see regularly comments about how expensive relays are. I mean it might not work, but can’t we TRY it?

I want to make the distinction here too that this doesn’t mean we are closing off the network, we are adding permissions to the protocol, this doesn’t suggest at all to used closed source code, we simply need the services necessary to keep this ecosystem robust, to be profitable and have the resources to thrive. If they aren’t, then NONE of this works. Economics is everything.

I know building features is more exciting. I know we all want to make everything that we can free, and I agree all of the *code* should be shared. However, I think there is a natural insecurity (and I say this because I have this problem personally) with charging a fair price, and fearing criticism or the ire of people who believe everything should be free (as in price) when we need things to be free (as in Liberty). They are not the same, and confusing the two could stifle, or drastically slow down, the insane potential of this place.

TL;DR We have GOT to divert some energy to thinking about how to make this ecosystem sustainable, or we will lose it.

(Disclaimer: this isn’t a judgement on whoever is thinking about this problem. It just *seems* like few are. If you are building in this way please share your ideas or what you are trying. I’m extremely interested)

Now that I've had time to sleep on the "ZBD" issue. I feel that my reasoning yesterday for continuing to discuss this client wasn't so much about ZBD itself, it was because of me being shocked an appalled at the toxicity being sent towards ZBD users. We often say how the vibe on Nostr is different and how we embody positivity, but that hasn't been shown the last few days towards ZBD users.

It's okay to bash a client and securitize it's implementation of Nostr. This is how the protocol grows. However, it's not cool to do this towards brand new Nostriches. They didn't do anything wrong. They're mostly just people looking to play games and stack some sats. There's nothing wrong with that.

This should be a teaching moment for them. This should be a knowledge exchange. We do this for new Bitcoiners, right? We teach them about self custody. The same can be applied here. Instead of telling someone why you feel Coinbase isn't the solution for them, you can tell them why you feel ZBD isn't the solution for them.

Remember, we're trying to #grownostr here, so you need to explain everything in a cool and calm manner here. You could even write a long and precise guide so that you can just give them the noteID or link to the web site.

If we truly believe that Nostr is for everyone and Nostr is open, then we should do better and explain better. We're not toxic. We left that conversation on Twitter for a reason, because we want to build and change the future for the better.

Reusable lightning vouchers are coming.

good morning nostr, we must be the change we wish to see in the world 🫡

push forward - never stop 🤘

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