Just think, now that Dorsey unilaterally adopted BIP177 for his many thousands of centralized properties there are now arguably "only" 2.1 quadrillion Bitcoin.
But at least now bitcoiners can spend their bitcoin because we all know there was no way to do that before he popped in to rescue us all.
Such a huge asset to this space.
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this may start to be a little more lively around here.
https://www.newsweek.com/divine-everything-we-know-about-vines-reboot-11048434
Just what nostr needs, a massive influx of human created shallow dopamine hits (brainrot) and those who consume it, to counter all the intellectual discussion and content.
I'll predict what happens next: splintering.
Definitely not a bad actor. smh
It's beautiful! Teatro Nacional
San Salvador, one of two stages for the Bitcoin Histórico conference (bitcoinhistorico.com). The other being this amazing location, the Palacio Nacional:
Yes, unless someone's already designed one for you.
https://www.thingiverse.com/search?q=Refrigerator+tray&page=1
But if there are accented characters where non-accented should be, it's phishing!
Perfect! Just add units confusion+2.1 quadrillion "scarce" "₿" for the win!
It's about time people start considering that whatever the state used to leverage Jack into infringing free speech and openly lying about it, they might still be using to get him to "support" bitcoin and "influencers" so they won't call out this bullshit.
Don't trust, verify - motherfuckers.
The one and only nostr:nprofile1qqsw79gu0guq7s98t473fyavx3akwaafmx6l5z4rehd50lrcl2mf4zcprfmhxue69uhkzer4d36zuvfcwpk82uewwdhkx6tpdshsz9mhwden5te0v96xcctn9ehx7um5wghxcctwvshsz9thwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjme094u090 moderating a talk at Bitcoin Historico.
"when people say 10,000 bitcoin they will know what you mean anyways unless you’re saylor."
How about when it's 1?
"But maybe he should eventually just say 1 trillion bitcoin which properly describes the enormity of it."
Try 2.1 quadrillion.
Why use decimals for msats if you can once again use the ₿ again because "unicode!"? Who cares about orders of magnitude? They obviously don't matter.
BTW, I walked 1,000,000,000 m today! Just figure it out from the magnitude. Am I extremely physically fit or 110 years old? Who cares! Users will just have to guess. Hell, why bother with the whole imperial vs. metric debate, just put a number. If units don't matter why should that matter either.
Hell, let's just say bitcoin and ripple are the same while we're at it. Now there are googolplex "stuffs" that don't even need names!
Nothing like simplicity and clarity to help increase adoption.
Other than overpaying by about ₿ 59,999.9997 sounds great. You must be making a killing in donations.
We can most definitely have impact on someone unilaterally attempting to confuse bitcoin users, by:
1. Sending clear feedback
2. Not using or supporting people/wallets/services who use this invalid, confusing and dangerous terminology
3. Spreading awareness of the problems with the community
This is well within the power of even an individual to help remedy.
I'll dare to say that packaging this with the otherwise very positive (and overdue) enablement of square's customer base to accept bitcoin, would be seen as an attack by many OG bitcoiners. To me, it's like a form of poison pill.
"Officer, I use nautical miles per hour." 😂
Imagine millions of people scanning invoices to pay for streams for ₿2/minute or second. This is not an improvement nor does it help. In fact it most definitely adds confusion and there is no good reason to use the same exact symbol. Just use a lightning bolt, sats, ₿s or anything other than an existing symbol that represents 100,000,000 as much.
Then consider the attack surface created by conditioning normie users to pay whole numbers of bitcoin for things. What could possibly go wrong?
Education materials will have to be updated to somehow explain the difference while already tackling a complex subject.
"oh yeah, and ₿ can mean $100,000 or 1/10th of a cent."
Totally ridiculous.
Is this true? nostr:nprofile1qqsqfjg4mth7uwp307nng3z2em3ep2pxnljczzezg8j7dhf58ha7ejgpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qyvhwumn8ghj7urjv4kkjatd9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshs9rgwy9
If my math is correct, according to BIP177, "₿" stands at $0.00103106.
Please make it make sense.
Hey, what's a factor of 100,000,000 anyway? 😂
This move is the most retarded act of anyone "on behalf of" bitcoin. Units matter. Present your best argumenrs.
It's self evidently a horrible idea. Units matter.
"bItCoIn iS sCaRcE! tHeRE wIlL oNlY eVeR bE 2.1 qUaDrIlLiOn!"
"cEnTs aNd dOlLaRs aRe tHe sAmE!"
I became somewhat internet famous for almost exactly this sort of units confusion. See "VerizonMath". https://verizonmath.blogspot.com/2007/08/original-recording-of-verizon-customer.html
What could possibly go wrong?
Didn't we lose a $300 million Mars orbiter due to units of measure being mismatched?
Imagine scanning an article/stream/video paywall invoice for 5 "₿"? Totally insane. Is this guy going for broke in terms of being a bad actor or just high on his own supply?
Try again without straw-manning. The price quote for a 26TB drive was clearly intended as a cost metric not a requirement.
Your node will not be immune from illicit content no matter which software you run. In fact the mindless tribalism is likely to lead to both sides getting a dose of it to prove a point.
I just found a great video you might be interested in. This guy does an excellent job of digging into the technical details and then the larger issue, the toxicity of the debate. I highly recommend it. Also, watch it and then read the comments and notice that despite his clear attempt to be as impartial as seems possible, he gets flamed by tribal dimwits that just want to cheer for their own team, villify their opposition while dismissing logic and reason.
How'd that work out in 2017?
Back then big blockers similarly vilified and slandered the core developers and wound up bagholding "the real bitcoin" worth 1/100th of the *real* bitcoin.
The safest approach is not to amp up the division and to calmly address differences of opinion about how to address spam in all its forms.
That's the narrative but the truth is more complex.
You really need to touch grass. There are no enemies in this. Just differences of opinion about very complicated technical issues, governance questions and game theoretical scenarios.
Not talking is not going to take us anywhere. It's literally the worst possible approach.
More talking and hashing through and reconciling these complex issues is the only productive path forward.
Also, if history is any precedent, during the block size wars similarly irrational vilificiation led those perpetrating it and hopping aboard that narrative to sell their bitcoin and becoming BCH and BSV bagholders. Think it through.
We all have an interest in bitcoin's success. Vilifying and slandering long time contributors is not the right way to go about this. Calm and rational discussion is required.
"Everyone who disagrees with me is a shill!"
Is this really the level you want to operate at? Ask more of yourself. It will produce better outcomes.
There always was spam and likely always will be. The question is how to deal with it in the most effectively while limiting negative impacts. Both sides have valid concerns. It's not black and white, good vs. evil. We need a rational plan and respectful discussions.
Nothing in your response contradicts Jameson's statement. Both can be true.