No, Bitcoin Core won’t parse or preview images, even with 4MB OP_RETURN. But with the larger limit, you could embed big text art or ASCII images right in a transaction, making complex visuals from letters and symbols possible on-chain, way beyond what was doable before. Only actual images/binary would still require extraction to view as pictures; however, it's only logical to expect popular block explorers to quickly add binary extraction features for user convenience.

You can run v29 and set your own parameters.

You're missing the technical difference in visibility.

Now: Arbitrary data is buried in witness fields, requiring special software to decode and view.

With 4MB OP_RETURN: The data sits plainly in a standard output. Any node parsing the chain can see it without special explorers.

It’s the difference between data being technically present versus being unavoidably visible.

And that's a huge difference. Don't sugarcoat it.

Propagation path remains scarce if only a few nodes and miners run v30/libre relay nodes. It matters no matter how much you guys push this narrative.

We didn't expect anything less coming from those puppets.

These guys are laid back, they do not push narratives by belittling the users and get things done in silence without being obnoxious.

An exemplary team doing the good work for all of us.

Respect.

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Well done, team! Wishing you all the best.

Anyhting goes when done in the name of democracy.

Hypocrites.

This concerns web3 and metamask predominantly?

This is like claiming there's no risk/reward. For negligent upside and exceeding risks, they might choose not to. If most chooses not to, the propagation path remains limited, as currently. These are just possible scenarios, you might be correct to bet on human greed.

No, they can easily not update to v30 or not run libre relay, but instead continue running v29 with their data carrier preferences and still be within protocol rules. They would thus be exercising their choice. If more become aware of this, the propagation path would remain niche and limited. It's their choice to make. Looking forward to seeing how this unravels.

Given that Inscription based fees represent only a negligible (~0.1%) addition to miner profits after hashrate and cost adjustments, and with added risk of transmitting illicit material, miners might be more careful in accepting 4MB files for confirmation, don't you think?

Only if they know a miner running liver relay and have him in their peer; oherwise, it seems not plausible.

Given below is a try at unbiased assessment of the perspectives from both sides. A nuanced approach is key here, no need to attack and belittle each other.

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In essence, it's not done because the propagation path is scarce. The more widespread Libre Relay nodes are, the more reliable and censorship-resistant the OP_RETURN data storage becomes in the Bitcoin blockchain. At 1%, it's niche and fragile; at 20%, it starts to significantly improve reach.

> its just relaxing the filters to what is actually reflected in the protocol rules.

Which is the max block size.

> the less accurate your node is when doing fee estimation.

I never had a substantial discrepancy in fee estimates.

I don't think there are many new attack vectors introduced by these changes but still, as good practice, no upgrading to newer versions before they have been out for a prolonged time.

It surely will lead to a cleaner code, that I agree.

I understand there's a need to relax the data carrier limits for new use cases but opening it up to the max block size seems like an overshoot. I want to retain the optionality, though I understand that, after block confirmation, my node will end up storing the data that guys like yourself relayed to the miners. It's a catch 22.

Libre relay has been around for ages, you've been running that all this time? I would assume you were on Core

You can't be freedom loving and not be against what Israel is currently doing. Thanks for proving Godwin's law.

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And, to be honest, I don't run knots, I run core 29.0.0 and intend to run it for the upcoming few years. I surely won't be upgrading to v30 any time soon.

Mr. Back's work is in the citations of the whitepaper and Luke got way more credentials, so do the other nackers who are in the top rows. I, unfortunately, only started on this journey in 2017, but I am constantly learning. I try to remain unbiased and wrote about the issue my thoughts. More nuanced approach would be appreciated if you are with the ackers.

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https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2025/09/06/adam-back-joins-fight-for-the-soul-of-bitcoin-over-jpeg-spam

This is not a matter to be dismissed as demagoguery as nostr:nprofile1qqsqyredyxhqn0e4ln0mvh0v79rchpr0taeg4vcvt64te4kssx5pc0sprpmhxue69uhkv6tvw3jhytnwdaehgu3wwa5kuef0uf7t3z is one of the key figures in Bitcoin space.

Regardless of what you choose, if limits are lifted and people run Core 30, let's say 5% of nodes run the latest version (you can fill up one block with one jpeg) they will relay that tx, and if it gets confirmed by a miner, your node will have it. That's what is meant by "we'll rape your node".

Just don't upgrade to the latest version, run 29.0.0 and set your own limits. Those who will run 30 are responsible for their choices and we can't do much about it except choosing not to run it. That's it.

Bingo

The life of a trader when encountered with #bitcoin.

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They are, then, compromised and subverted.

This is the face of current Israel supporters. Worse than their biggest historical foes. Nazi Germans, at the least, had some sense of decency.

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Probably because she's German and zee Germans are notorious for being Nazi

That's a terrible thought in itself. However, still totally plausible with the current unfolding of events. Especially, with today's leadership in many countries. Abolish statism and all that comes with it.

Good.

Now let's see how people boycott Israel not for taking a kid's hat, but ending the lives of more than 20k kids during the last few years.

A clown world.

These nasty hoes that nobody elected, where do they come from?

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Great work!

A typical parasitic behavior that is only befitting...

One flight, one child, but one obese person is like 3 children. Maybe start with better food?

What a twat, doing shit like that.

I sat down and read bitcoin whitepaper in early 2016 and I realized it is the only way to reduce statism to where it belongs: obsolete.

Since that day, I never turned back on it and learned everything I can on it. Being a child of war and seeing how governments work to control and by extension destroy if controlling was deemed not possible, I pledged my life energy to anarchy and individual sovereignty. Bitcoin, I thought, was the first thing that made this possible in human history.

I still stand by that.

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It's not meritocrasy if nostr:nprofile1qqs0m40g76hqmwqhhc9hrk3qfxxpsp5k3k9xgk24nsjf7v305u6xffcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp00qjrgs views are dismissed by Core devs like we've seen lately.

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This is what happens when twats don't get a good beating

Cohen, nuff said.

Fuckin disgrace to humanity.

I have lost 1/5th of my followers following #Amethyst update.

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This will just increase grey/black market flows, p2p txs are to be between like-minded plebs that will not differentiate coins based on where they have been, no?

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Yes, the window resizing is a very good suggestion. NoScript comes with default TOR?

Job pays in Bitcoin?

They too will suffer at some point. For only one thing is absolute: death.

We're witnessing the biggest systematic genocide in modern history and people act like it doesn't concern them cause "it's not my country" or some other stupid shit like that.

Human suffering is human suffering — it matters not where it is happening and who is the transgressor.

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Next thing: connect to my own node.

You are triggered.

Cope harder.

Predictable dilution is still dilution, it just comes with a calendar invite. Calling it “not inflation” because it’s steady is like claiming rain doesn’t get you wet if it’s in the forecast.

Monero’s fixed emission shields against fee uncertainty, but every new coin still chips away at existing holders’ share. That’s a tradeoff, not a free lunch, and dressing it up as “sustainable” doesn’t change the arithmetic.

Both models make bets: one on trust in economic incentives, the other on perpetual issuance. Let’s just call dilution what it is, even if it arrives right on schedule.

Mises did not treat central banking as capitalism; he firmly opposed central banks and any form of centrally controlled monetary policy, arguing that true capitalism requires free-market money. As he wrote in "Human Action":

> “The gold standard is the world’s money. It is not the money of governments and kings, it is the money of the people... The government may destroy the gold standard system. But it cannot replace it.”

Mises was clear that central banking represents government intervention, not a feature of capitalism.

> Hayek likewise favored letting prices fall when output expands, criticizing monetary policy aimed at artificially stabilizing prices. Hayek’s “neutral money criterion” held that prices should fall during real growth, and he opposed using monetary expansion to counteract such benign deflation.

This cuts through the core premise you guys put forth: few monies chasing more goods is BAD. This is just fiat logic in open-source clothing.

I provided enough evidence that this is not the case for any reasonable man.

The security of Bitcoin’s network isn’t dictated by nominal sats/vB fees, but by their real-world purchasing power. As technology and energy markets evolve, the value each sat buys increases, offsetting declining block subsidies and flat fee rates. What secures #Bitcoin is that the cumulative economic value of block rewards (fees plus subsidy or just fees from 2140) remains sufficient to incentivize honest miners, not whether fees rise endlessly on a chart.

Lightning’s off-chain scaling doesn’t weaken base layer security—it specializes it. Most #Lightning channels close cooperatively and can be timed when fees are low; force closes are rare edge cases, typically stemming from unplanned disruptions, not routine use. If on-chain settlement becomes costly, it’s an accurate pricing signal that higher-value transactions should take priority, mirroring traditional system settlement hierarchy.

Bitcoin’s long-term security model relies on efficiently aligning economic demand for settlement with honest miner incentives, not perpetual inflation or fee hypergrowth. As adoption and value rise, users will pay more in aggregate for scarce block space, even if that means fewer, but more valuable, on-chain settlements. Real-world miner costs continue to fall, and network security adapts dynamically—anchored in market forces, not central planning or silent dilution.

But they will have to charge 😂