Subnostr

the game theory of trusted third parties should have been obviously a bad element of the architecture for anyone pretending to be part of bitcoin lol

semisol 1y ago

in security design you already assume everything is untrusted until proven otherwise, most trusted components are limited and internal, and whatever external “trust” exists is limited to the bare minimum

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What are your thoughts on how bitcoin will scale? I think the argument is people will end up using custodians no matter what so we might as well have better custodians.

semisol 1y ago

What you are saying is giving up before you even try

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Jay

Maybe that's enough, and the other 95% use another solution.

But for that 5%, it's better than all the alternatives, so it has to exist.

semisol 1y ago

That 5% is what we might call “shared accounts/custodians in a single small community”

And it’s certainly not ecash

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Jay

We live on the knife's edge of trust and security. If you're isolated and alone, you crave security. But if you have a strong social network, generations deep, you can rely on trust.

Right now a lot of bitcoiners are in the former state, trying to build the latter.

semisol 1y ago

true trust often only emerges in small, tightly knit groups of people

it is so small to make the utility of ecash or similar trust based systems useless for 95% of use cases

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Jay

#yestr it's all fun and games until the paper in your pocket or the ecash on your phone returns to it's intrinsic value.

semisol 1y ago

also known as 0

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semisol

You have reinvented how cash even became a thing

bank issued banknotes => govt issued backed cash => govt issued unbacked cash => mint issued “ecash note” => government issued “sats note” => government issued unbacked “sats note”

semisol 1y ago

Ecash is just a glorified IOU… not sure why people are so hyped about it

you do not have sats until you redeem the ecash, in which case you may get rugged and gets absolutely nothing

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Jay

Physical bills but they're redundant nfc/magnetic stripe/qr code ecash denominated in sats.

I'd be walking around with a fat stack of 100 sat bills like a baller in 20 years.

semisol 1y ago

You have reinvented how cash even became a thing

bank issued banknotes => govt issued backed cash => govt issued unbacked cash => mint issued “ecash note” => government issued “sats note” => government issued unbacked “sats note”

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tanel

what

semisol 1y ago

🧊

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tanel

love the built-in translation on damus

semisol 1y ago

what has happened now

semisol 1y ago

Thank you Matrix

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semisol 1y ago

Cloud mining with a new label 😕

We all know how that turns out… thin or negative margins for the “miner”, service could rug your bids

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ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ

adding full text searching is independent of the pagination issue, there is a NIP for the search field, i forget what it is, but it's a separate matter from providing a query state cache and pagination that depends on that cache to make possible

you can make a full text search (including, potentially, searching tag fields, i guess) separately from implementing pagination

don't muddle the two things together, the relay can already signal search field support in nip-11, and the results from using this with a REQ as in NIP-01 you get an even bigger problem with pagination

so, solve pagination first, then add the full text search

semisol 1y ago

NIP-50 has the problem that it is extremely limited

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ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ

well, we could make a new variant of the REQ maybe? if you want to make a proposal i will give it a good going over and make sure it's solid, perhaps we can get others to help with this

part of the issue is to do pagination you need to cache queries and their results, so it must be spam-protected, and it's dependent on implementing a state cache for the queries

semisol 1y ago

yes, 99% of extensions will act like tag queries, but based off of other things (such as links in content field)

I am considering an advanced search extension, which can be easier to implement in an external search DB

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Silberengel

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semisol 1y ago

my opinion is that nostr REQs are too limited, and to some extent purpose-specific indexes will emerge

they should be standardized to avoid fragmentation, and this is one reason I was saying it should be easy to extend relays

semisol 1y ago

FUD and Anticompetitive Practices Manager* nostr:note1crfayprenljp34z340z8wtvhse36rcqg5rnv4pfepk6u943cgzfspstc2t

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nout

Yeah, use credit card with 0% APR for the first year 🙂

semisol 1y ago

assume an implicit +x on every line where x>=$900 :)

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Big Barry Bitcoin

Datacenter got hacked? Too bad your PII as well as a whole bunch more people's is now public.

Which is worse?

semisol 1y ago

Oh that still applies even with Nostr if the provider gets hacked.

semisol 1y ago

leaked your nsec? too bad, your PII is now public nostr:note1eqmze4t892x99qcukv5kawwu8cr886qxagqsqjdxvefvsmq2c8cshhs7eu

semisol 1y ago

now all that remains is dumping Jira for OneDev nostr:note1uywrje0nhedl9rel8jrj23pd9wmlc0dknqywjutx2ypq73fnurksew969f

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τέχνη

> they want separate devices for each task email, web browsing, printing, etc

That’s still true.

semisol 1y ago

Not devices. Software.

Related use cases are being merged, while any use cases that do exist but are rarely used become simplified so people do not have to learn how it works in detail and/or directly integrated into other applications/OS (example is printing)

In Nostr, microapps won’t scale, as the cost to be familiar with n applications scales as n^2

Eventually, microapps converge into integrations and large clients.