So you don’t think there’s any way on this green and blue earth that they said “we know you’re vocal on social media and if you don’t give us that bitcoin we’ll make you disappear”
He gave them access/they found the keys, it doesn’t mean they hacked the Bitcoin network. Not close.
Nilla; the only flavor of feed.
Could initiate some kinda annihilation protocol; bots…
If I was a betting man; absolutely. Have you ever seen shitcoin media presence and the people that parrot it as “innovative tech”?
For sure it’s a stain for; how long has it been, 2016 or so? So 2026… imho of course.
That, my friend, is top tier life advice. Nothing short.
Lemmie know is you decide to come a little ways north 🤘🙏🤘
I appreciate your knowledge of how to have an actual discussion. It’s a give and take, workings as a team to climb the ladder of knowledge to an agreeable end. Each consecutive rung made of alternating perspectives.
There are some who refuse to climb. Perhaps they’re scared of heights.
This is at the core of my “playbook”, especially online. Everyone in cyberspace comes from a position of attack and defense, regardless of what is said. You can literally voice the possibility of both sides having validity and 9/10 you become the opposition by default.
There is no way forward from that dichotomy. That example serves as law online; what’s scary is that it has crossed the barrier and bled into meatspace.
I’m not sure of the way back. This is the biggest obstacle of our time.
Close mindedness upsets me. And gaslighting.
And by omission, I just am a statist cuck who doesn’t want to see Bitcoin improve ld upon, I guess?
You keep pulling a single point out of what I’m saying and disconnecting it from the bigger picture of the perspective.
There are people who speak only in what they know to be reality via experience and there are those who enjoy speaking to the realm of possibility.
When someone says “let’s have a discussion” it’s absurd to engage with the intention of only considering the angle you already possess. That’s a debate, not a discussion.
But right on. Enjoy the box my friend.
🤘🙏🤘
indeed. I get the definition of a stored ledger. But in Bitcoin, the closed system monetary network, previous wallet occupancy is used for one thing, keeping track of the distribution of coins and a verifiable count. The fact central authroity will use data opertunisticly and with prejudice is but sadly expected and likely unavoidable. They rule their world and call the shots. But Bitcoin isn’t their world, it’s separate and cut off and anything they project onto it is just that, a projection. That’s why P2P is truly the standard of commerce on a Bitcoin standard. To even consider what government has to say about Bitcoin is giving them power via your compliance in a realm that was designed (and works) outside their power and coercion
Exactly; it’ss seizure resistant. Any coins that have ever been taken by another party was done via physical meat space coercion and ultimately concession by the holder.
I understand the perspective on objective fungibility (and its definition) that you are correctly describing. But it’s also (and only) true based on the system in which our experience and interaction occurs. That is to say because there is a massive set of agreed upon premises; that is the way fungibility works.
But just as with any concept, mental framework and most particularly societal heuristics, it is A) an entity of the mind (you can’t touch fungibility) and B) only remains true/valid until a consciousness revolution takes place.
I want you to know I’m sort of playing devils advocate here but Id ask you to broaden your threshold for possible simultaneous accurate perspectives. Its a basic tenant of Bitcoin that it holds a mirror up to the house of cards that fiat is. Its BTC 101 to understand that a 20 dollar bill is actually just a piece of paper. Its not the paper that is of valuable material; it’s the belief behind it. The collective acceptance that how ever many jumps down the layered money line, there’s a backing at the end transmitting assurance of value.
There are people in tribes that no doubt would see a dollar bill as just paper. And as current events and inflation show, the value and regard for those USD is changing, globally. But they are all still the same pieces of paper.
so, accepting what I just laid out as true and valid; you can’t talk ab money without including consideration for value. And value being also a mental construct is subject to change, conscious or un.
so yes it would be ideal that Bitcoin would receive a BIP that increased it fungibility; but I prefer to recognize another core aspect of Bitcoin. It is not an asset or entity under the umbrella of the current monetary system, or even societal perspective. It is a separate and closed system all of its own.
because of this I argue that there’s actually nothing a government can do that’s any different that a basic street mugger. They can make labels and lists and say any coins that exhibit x,y,z. are illigitimate: but that carries no weight in the Bitcoin network. They aren’t going into the code and altering it to reflect their preferences. Thier demands and regulations only exist in their fiat world and fiat brains.
You are not wrong. But I’m absolutely correct as well. Society is nothing if not a set of unwritten, agreed upon rules.
Absolutely! That’s what I was saying when I said the whole idea of “blacklisted” coins or tainted corn is absurd. Govt will totally try to pull that shit and as users and a community a great way to circumvent that (assuming one of these upgrades we wonder about doesn’t come around) is to collectively not give a hug what central authority labels as “Blacklisted” or “Tainted"
it most certainly does have a record, serial numbers could be traced to the mint, to the bank, to the atm, to the person who withdrew.
and money has everything to do with believing and collective belief
Who is that question directed at? I’m not trolling nor am I ignoring any flaws; I’m looking at this topic from a different perspective for sure.