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Replying to Avatar Max DeMarco

Radical community nostr client update:

I love how multiple projects and developers have reached out regarding building a community-based Nostr client. There are a lot who agree with closing the whole nostr ecosystem from the people joining on this particular client.

But I want to share some of my learnings and concerns to further the discussion.

It seems that NIP-29 provides a way to create groups and build a community-based forum.

However, a developer mentioned one caveat: it is built in a way to prioritize the Members. The arguing is that members invest in these communities, but the owner retains ownership, which, of course, makes sense for the owner.

But NIP-29 groups are designed to be forkable, which is intended to solve this ownership issue. In theory, members can fork the group by copying content to their own relay. This is good for edge cases where the owner goes rogue, but I suspect there will be grifters who might copy a community just to steal it.

I don’t fully understand the technical details. But from a creator's perspective, these owners have been building their communities for years, and people follow them for a reason.

I think no creator would ever use a community platform if they couldn’t own it. It should be the equivalent of owning an email list. This client should enable a person to act as a multiplier, reaching thousands of people. This particular use case of nostr is aimed at creators, only indirect to his followers. Fans can opt out in various ways, but forking a community that a creator has been building for years is a non-starter for them.

The need the power and own the community and can do with it what they want.

If you truly enjoy an email newsletter, you trust the decisions the person makes, even though you have no control over what they do with it.

If he fucks up go to another community - someone you trust more.

Most creators have a good incentive and long term focus on their communities (fuck the people who dump shitcoiners and grifters) real creators care about their people following them.

I think only admins or whoever you give permission to can fork.

I would say NIP-71, see on flare, nostrudel, highlighter, yakihonne, zap-stream.

it would be easier to be a dailymotion style

or nothing the other day i was reading fiatjaf's quotes about mongoDB

Replying to Avatar 7fqx

Found it

:)

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Not seeing posts, but bridges are always janky lol

They should be on nostr too really ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

test @fmhy.bsky.social

Push notifications?

"It accepts events that tag your users, but doesn't allow the public to read them back until they have passed moderation and until then, only your users (after being authenticated) can see them"

(I understand that I don't fully understand, sorry)

I don't know if this is the case, I think it's personal relay, not open_relay