What would be the Npub of a boyband?
Would it not make sense, if the things published under the boy-band's name, be signed by all the individual members of the boy-band? Ignore that they will probably have a PR crew, this is a grassroots upstart boy-band signing their own things and singing about uptown girls.
On may 15, Fiatjaf published a video with a demo of using MuSig2.
The use of this, is to publish under a new npub while signing with more than one person. Something we did today:
There are no standards for this stuff yet, so if you are so inclined to verify this for yourself:
In the json of the event you can see two pubkeys mentioned in the tags. Use nak and run:
nak key combine 5ea4648045bb1ff222655ddd36e6dceddc43590c26090c486bef38ef450da5bd 3bf0c63fcb93463407af97a5e5ee64fa883d107ef9e558472c4eb9aaaefa459d
To see that the pubkey of our goliath coming online is in that list you just produced.
Maybe these signing singers, will sing about signing next.
Nostr wont solve the hordes of lost souls trapped in the neo-simulacrum; it just gives the authentic a fighting chance to get refuge amidst all of it.
Do not worry, i am sure someone will come up with a Kind for that eventually
Well, fuck me i guess. Can these devs stop what they are doing for a couple of months, so I have a static thing to describe instead of some shifting amalgam of activity and usecases?
Cool, thnx
Its not a trap, its a method born out of necessity, an economic reality if you will. So yes, but it is not just that it is simpler, but the only thing that can be repeated over and over again.
There are only a few people you can afford to get to know in a way you describe; although having those type of people in your life is not a given i gues. Just had cheese fondue with three of them, the chocolate fondue is next :)
When I envision everything surrounding publishing an event;
I see bunch of monks in hooded robes with torches surrounding you, chanting.
While you stand in the middle casting a magic spell that signs the note.
And then you walk outside with the note, and get on a soapbox, take a bullhorn and shout the thing out loud.
The reason I imagine it this way is because we are performing a highly advanced ritualistic practice, its just happens to be done in an automated fashion by computers, so there is typically less torches and chanting going on. But all the signing and verification that happens in the back ground might as well be long drawn out serious processions in some ritual of old.
Apparently its something that evokes some sacred sentiments in me, while at the same time my perspective on publishing is highly profane; loud, needy and a somewhat obnoxious exponent of a craving for attention, desperately going out in all directions in search for an audience.
Perhaps its because signing is a very deliberate commitment to the particular, where as publishing is surrendering control and handing it over to generality.
And then I look at my feed with a bunch of ‘GM’s , I laugh while I wonder if you guys are, or I am, the silly one.
Would your posting behavior change if you would go though some serious ceremony focused on the fact that you are wielding a name, each time you post?
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### Project Name
Nostr
### Project Description
Nostr (Notes and Other Stuff Transmitted by Relays) is an open, censorship-resistant, and decentralized communication protocol designed for simplicity and resilience. Unlike traditional platforms, Nostr doesn’t rely on centralized servers. It already supports various use cases with free, open-source clients—offering alternatives to platforms like Twitter/X, Meetup.com, Excel 365, healthcare system and more. We will help you get started with Nostr.
Nostr has seen remarkable adoption and growth within the open-source community, evidenced by over 12,500 GitHub stars, 500+ forks, and contributions from more than 350 developers. The protocol has catalyzed the creation of an impressive ecosystem of over 390 projects, including mobile and web clients, relays, tools, and services that further enhance Nostr’s functionality. With over 70 tools and 48 libraries, developers can integrate Nostr into a wide array of applications—ranging from chat platforms to file storage and even decentralized marketplaces. These resources help to build decentralized, censorship-resistant systems without the need for centralized servers. Whether you’re working on peer-to-peer markets, privacy-focused messaging apps, or decentralized social media, Nostr’s ecosystem offers the tools.
### Project website
[https://github.com/nostr-protocol](https://github.com/nostr-protocol)
### Source code
[https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips](https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips)
### Project Theme
World Wide Web
### Do you want a stand for the entire event or just for one day?
Entire event
### Why do you want to be at FOSDEM?
We want to be at FOSDEM because it’s the perfect place to connect with like-minded developers and open-source enthusiasts who share our passion for decentralization, innovation, and building open permissionless technologies. FOSDEM fosters collaboration and the growth of community-driven projects and Nostr is a natural fit as a real grassroots project with its open protocol and commitment to build communication technology with resilience and simplicity in mind.
By being at FOSDEM, we aim to raise awareness, share knowledge and inspire others to explore the potential of decentralized communication systems. We also want to engage with the FOSS community and gain feedback to help Nostr grow. If people are really interested in how they can use Nostr we will show the possibilities, demo existing clients and provide in-depth explanations of how the protocol can replace the social layer (with user accounts in living a database) in existing software.
### What is the relation between the project and the primary contact?
Jurjen works with the community to promote its development, onboard new developers, and contribute to its open-source ecosystem. My role includes helping to raise awareness of Nostr's potential, organizing events, and supporting adoption by providing educational resources and technical guidance.
### What is the relation between the project and the secondary contact?
Sebastian (37) is an independent creative / fullstack web developer who is the maintainer of a PHP helper library supported by OpenSats. Besides this project he is also making contributions with developing Nostr modules for Drupal.
_“Since I've been online on the internet (1998), I'm highly interested in online communities, social networking and new ways of digital interactions. The internet has changed radically in the last decade and that change is not serving our interests. It's fair to say the web is broken in many ways. With Nostr we can fix this.”_
### Social media links
`npub1l77twp5l02jadkcjn6eeulv2j7y5vmf9tf3hhtq7h7rp0vzhgpzqz0swft` (Jurjen)
`npub1qe3e5wrvnsgpggtkytxteaqfprz0rgxr8c3l34kk3a9t7e2l3acslezefe` (Sebastian)
`npub1hz5alqscpp8yjrvgsdp2n4ygkl8slvstrgvmjca7e45w6644ew7sewtysa` (Tanja)
`npub1nkmta4dmsa7pj25762qxa6yqxvrhzn7ug0gz5frp9g7p3jdscnhsu049fn` (Kevin)
### Anything else you like to add?
We’d also like to highlight that Nostr was created by Fiatjaf, an anonymous founder, which aligns with its principles of openness and decentralization. As an open protocol, Nostr is designed to evolve and find its own way, just like the foundational protocols of the internet. Importantly, Nostr is not a blockchain project—there are no tokens, no costs, and no barriers. It’s also not a platform nor a NFT. It’s purely decentralized, built for resilience and simplicity. While payment solutions like Bitcoin can be integrated, they are optional, not intrinsic to the protocol. This makes Nostr accessible and flexible, truly embodying the spirit of the open internet.
Nostr is more than just a technological protocol; it’s about the energy, problem-solving, and sense of hope that draws people in. Even newcomers can play a significant role in the ecosystem, gaining insight from the outside while discovering the protocol’s potential. Tanja, for example, isn’t from a tech background, yet after just three months, she’s taken on a major organizational role. She’s been spreading the message of freedom of speech and is leading the Nostr Booth LATAM tour, where volunteers, entrepreneurs, and Nostr-based businesses come together, supported by the entire community, to raise awareness about Nostr. Her passion for decentralization and open collaboration also drives her efforts to bring Nostr to FOSDEM, where she will help connect the project with like-minded developers and open-source advocates.
Please reach out to us if there are any questions. We’re really looking forward to presenting Nostr as a protocol at one of the best places where free and open-source software is flourishing.
This content will be used for a FOSDEM stand submission via [https://pretalx.fosdem.org/fosdem-2025-call-for-stands/](https://pretalx.fosdem.org/fosdem-2025-call-for-stands/)
'' The protocol has catalyzed the creation of an impressive ecosystem ''
Use 'sparked' instead of catalyzed.
Oh and mention how old/young Nostr is.
Thats it, bonne chance
### Project Name
Nostr
### Project Description
Nostr (Notes and Other Stuff Transmitted by Relays) is an open, censorship-resistant, and decentralized communication protocol designed for simplicity and resilience. Unlike traditional platforms, Nostr doesn’t rely on centralized servers. It already supports various use cases with free, open-source clients—offering alternatives to platforms like Twitter/X, Meetup.com, Excel 365, healthcare system and more. We will help you get started with Nostr.
Nostr has seen remarkable adoption and growth within the open-source community, evidenced by over 12,500 GitHub stars, 500+ forks, and contributions from more than 350 developers. The protocol has catalyzed the creation of an impressive ecosystem of over 390 projects, including mobile and web clients, relays, tools, and services that further enhance Nostr’s functionality. With over 70 tools and 48 libraries, developers can integrate Nostr into a wide array of applications—ranging from chat platforms to file storage and even decentralized marketplaces. These resources help to build decentralized, censorship-resistant systems without the need for centralized servers. Whether you’re working on peer-to-peer markets, privacy-focused messaging apps, or decentralized social media, Nostr’s ecosystem offers the tools.
### Project website
[https://github.com/nostr-protocol](https://github.com/nostr-protocol)
### Source code
[https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips](https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips)
### Project Theme
World Wide Web
### Do you want a stand for the entire event or just for one day?
Entire event
### Why do you want to be at FOSDEM?
We want to be at FOSDEM because it’s the perfect place to connect with like-minded developers and open-source enthusiasts who share our passion for decentralization, innovation, and building open permissionless technologies. FOSDEM fosters collaboration and the growth of community-driven projects and Nostr is a natural fit as a real grassroots project with its open protocol and commitment to build communication technology with resilience and simplicity in mind.
By being at FOSDEM, we aim to raise awareness, share knowledge and inspire others to explore the potential of decentralized communication systems. We also want to engage with the FOSS community and gain feedback to help Nostr grow. If people are really interested in how they can use Nostr we will show the possibilities, demo existing clients and provide in-depth explanations of how the protocol can replace the social layer (with user accounts in living a database) in existing software.
### What is the relation between the project and the primary contact?
Jurjen works with the community to promote its development, onboard new developers, and contribute to its open-source ecosystem. My role includes helping to raise awareness of Nostr's potential, organizing events, and supporting adoption by providing educational resources and technical guidance.
### What is the relation between the project and the secondary contact?
Sebastian (37) is an independent creative / fullstack web developer who is the maintainer of a PHP helper library supported by OpenSats. Besides this project he is also making contributions with developing Nostr modules for Drupal.
_“Since I've been online on the internet (1998), I'm highly interested in online communities, social networking and new ways of digital interactions. The internet has changed radically in the last decade and that change is not serving our interests. It's fair to say the web is broken in many ways. With Nostr we can fix this.”_
### Social media links
`npub1l77twp5l02jadkcjn6eeulv2j7y5vmf9tf3hhtq7h7rp0vzhgpzqz0swft` (Jurjen)
`npub1qe3e5wrvnsgpggtkytxteaqfprz0rgxr8c3l34kk3a9t7e2l3acslezefe` (Sebastian)
`npub1hz5alqscpp8yjrvgsdp2n4ygkl8slvstrgvmjca7e45w6644ew7sewtysa` (Tanja)
`npub1nkmta4dmsa7pj25762qxa6yqxvrhzn7ug0gz5frp9g7p3jdscnhsu049fn` (Kevin)
### Anything else you like to add?
We’d also like to highlight that Nostr was created by Fiatjaf, an anonymous founder, which aligns with its principles of openness and decentralization. As an open protocol, Nostr is designed to evolve and find its own way, just like the foundational protocols of the internet. Importantly, Nostr is not a blockchain project—there are no tokens, no costs, and no barriers. It’s also not a platform nor a NFT. It’s purely decentralized, built for resilience and simplicity. While payment solutions like Bitcoin can be integrated, they are optional, not intrinsic to the protocol. This makes Nostr accessible and flexible, truly embodying the spirit of the open internet.
Nostr is more than just a technological protocol; it’s about the energy, problem-solving, and sense of hope that draws people in. Even newcomers can play a significant role in the ecosystem, gaining insight from the outside while discovering the protocol’s potential. Tanja, for example, isn’t from a tech background, yet after just three months, she’s taken on a major organizational role. She’s been spreading the message of freedom of speech and is leading the Nostr Booth LATAM tour, where volunteers, entrepreneurs, and Nostr-based businesses come together, supported by the entire community, to raise awareness about Nostr. Her passion for decentralization and open collaboration also drives her efforts to bring Nostr to FOSDEM, where she will help connect the project with like-minded developers and open-source advocates.
Please reach out to us if there are any questions. We’re really looking forward to presenting Nostr as a protocol at one of the best places where free and open-source software is flourishing.
This content will be used for a FOSDEM stand submission via [https://pretalx.fosdem.org/fosdem-2025-call-for-stands/](https://pretalx.fosdem.org/fosdem-2025-call-for-stands/)
decentralized and censorship resistant is redundant; remove decentralized and its fine, you mention decentralized servers later on anyway.
Je ''@k' ging iig ook niet lekker, want er zit geen npub referentie onder ;)
Authoritative servers (platforms) are nice because supposedly they have a bunch of advantages.
One such advantage is that they provide things like ‘global search’ and sensible like and follow counts, as opposed to something like Nostr where search sucks and likes and follows may as well be meaningless given how trivial sybil attacks are.
Somehow we believe this yet... You can buy likes and followers for these platforms, and it happens all the time. At least you can find everything that is on there, which is true, but also the point; you only see that is on THERE. Say you have a tweet, and its very popular. You can see all the tweets that are in response; but what a search function on a platform wont show you is all the conversations that happen in response to that tweet on forums and public chats elsewhere. The status quo already is chaos, and always will be.
The name of the game is providing sufficient order. The current platforms did that, their order is ‘sufficient’, perhaps by lack of viable alternative. And frankly, whatever order that exists on Nostr currently, is by lack of attack. But the thesis/belief behind Nostr is that whatever spam or sybil nightmares we will face, they can be mitigated. By means of trusted absolutes from authoritative servers and recommended follow and block-lists, an option that is still open to us; or by fancy WoT where you take an explicit probabilistic approach to glean signal from the endless noise. Or a combination of the two.
A.I. perhaps above all constitutes automated quality noise generation; as a result the noise floor increases and determining signal gets harder. Chaos is increasing, and the only direction platforms have is to become more totalitarian; increase barriers of entry by demanding more information and control, to keep their pretense of order alive. I don't expect the masses would reject this trend, and suspect they will go along; how ever many people these platforms will marginalize, that subsequently may find a home via Nostr, wont be what will win it for us (albeit enough reason to exist in the first place).
If we win, we will win because we are more flexible in dealing with the problems at hand.
Not many things better than down to a science hyper produced cookie cutter music with Kylie moaning in your ear the same old stuff about making advances on the dance floor.
Kiss bang bang baby!
https://cdn.satellite.earth/e7fca2576e6dbb7c8c2b0ac2e4f8f81f75c4bed88dec05f046d788e455f4d4e6.m4a
The great thing is there is an almost endless supply
https://cdn.satellite.earth/a4267f5bffa6d4b5a2d6e355e228797e07af581a598b026932d453f1874ba791.mp3
Not many things better than down to a science hyper produced cookie cutter music with Kylie moaning in your ear the same old stuff about making advances on the dance floor.
Kiss bang bang baby!
https://cdn.satellite.earth/e7fca2576e6dbb7c8c2b0ac2e4f8f81f75c4bed88dec05f046d788e455f4d4e6.m4a
nostr:nprofile1qqs0tlt4fptsgmehatjcexpd0gyerwsgext0tveep73t44r77fccmmgpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq3qamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wwa5kuegpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqrkhp92 answering the question what is unique about the Dutch Bitcoin Community in 1,5 minutes at Bitcoin Amsterdam.
https://cdn.satellite.earth/753e982d97719c4461aafe60a2bea5126f19981983c97f5b0958d6dbc94c0931.mp4
At the end he talks about the Ring of fire. The biggest one was in 2021 with 65 lightning nodes coordinating and connecting to each other forming a circle. The result is that everyone just has to open 1 channel with another node, and you end up with 2 balanced channels after a balancing transaction around the ring has been done (lighting the ring on fire).
Here is a clip, with 57 of the 65 nodes.
https://cdn.satellite.earth/76c751da5542b96725b36ce5260333de80e34df26bbb9cc836ae040bea1a27a1.mp4
nostr:nprofile1qqs0tlt4fptsgmehatjcexpd0gyerwsgext0tveep73t44r77fccmmgpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq3qamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wwa5kuegpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqrkhp92 answering the question what is unique about the Dutch Bitcoin Community in 1,5 minutes at Bitcoin Amsterdam.
https://cdn.satellite.earth/753e982d97719c4461aafe60a2bea5126f19981983c97f5b0958d6dbc94c0931.mp4