Maybe some shopping therapy is in order then??
Money is very tight. My law firm does a lot of bankruptcy and restructuring work (not me that’s for nerds) but we are slammed.
Could be a factor but even shitbag litigants get help when a broader industry stands to benefit from their success.
As is Christmas custom. Good luck Helen.
I cant begrudge a person for settling out their case when they face a real personal threat, but the lack of support for their case up to the point where the plea deal was reached is curious to me, thats all. “Facts and evidence” are like 25% of what cases are about most of the time. The story and how it’s told is the bulk of it.
Fishy indeed, thank you for not only reading, but actually taking a second to understand what I saying.
My point is that when seriously important cases arise there is no shortage of litigation support for them. There are entire law firms set up to bring and defend important cases and yet there were crickets here in the context where everyone yelling and screaming for these guys seems to agree that it was an incredibly important case. So where was the litigation support? This is my world, I will tell you that when something is critically constitutionally important or is a matter of general public importance lawyers flock to work on it for free. The absence of it here is curious to me as someone who works in this industry.
I wouldn’t because I don’t have access to the information that his lawyers did, I wouldn’t even begin to pretend how to do that, but the problem is they apparently couldn’t generate money to defend themselves which is curious to me.
You should re-read what I posted before being an asshole. Be an asshole after you actually understood what I said.
My instinct is that this is closer to the truth than we know and it could be far more insidious, e.g., maybe they got a different deal to _not_ fight this case. That is a super scandalous allegation and I’m not saying its true, I’m just saying that I don’t buy that a case that everyone seems uniformly convinced was so constitutionally important couldn’t get sufficient funding for it, I just don’t buy that.
I’m admittedly someone who likes conspiracies, but this is also my area of expertise—high stakes litigation. With all the rabble out there and the podcast circuit that guy just went on which he seemed to effortlessly secure but only after he failed to secure funding for his defense, just doesn’t smell right to me.
I have seen small businesses spend millions of dollars on litigation just to demonstrate to the public that they will enforce their contracts if they are challenged, regardless of whether they can collect on those
It just doesn’t pass that smell test that the world seems uniformly in agreement that the Samurai case is a serious danger to speech, coding, etc.etc., but these guys couldn’t sure defense funding, or just pro bono lawyers, to help.
If you have practiced federal litigation you know that when an industry sees a threat in a given lawsuit, lawyers come from all over out of the woodwork to help and make sure the precedent set is good for the industry, yet here there was a mediocre campaign for funds and then a plea deal ostensibly due to lack of funding.
There is definitely more to this story.
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My point is there seems to be something more to this story. Marty Bent just had that lawyer on regarding censorship and he is working basically for free and yet these guys couldn’t rally legal support? Had to plea because they couldn’t afford it? It just doesnt seem right to me.
I’ve seen far less constitutionally important cases be funded with millions of dollars and nominally “straw “plaintiffs that just barely have standing sufficient support because of action simply to get the matter to the supreme court, and yet these two individuals couldn’t muster funds to survive through trial when everyone seems to agree that they should’ve won which means when they lost appeal would’ve been all the more valuable
Haha. That was a great job.
Naw that’s working out but it was the only thing I thought I had left to pursue since I was unemployable. I was literally working as a nanny before law school.
I’ve made a lot of mistakes in life. This is why I’m a lawyer now.
I’m not going to try to weed through the semantic and rhetorical positions a lot of you want to take on that other thread but I am very curious what you all have to think about the following:
It seems like a lot of you believe (and I agree) that the samurai prosecution is a serious threat to speech and privacy and the space generally. Yet no one seemed to give a shit enough to fund a single lawsuit. There are actual bitcoin billionaires and millionaire who we actually know without having to say names. They didn’t give a shit. There are serious public figure venture capitalists in this space. I’m sure they gave money they certainly asked us to on their various pod casts. And had Keonne on all the podcasts after the plea. Where was all the money?
I watch what people do not what people say. You all rightly point out they could not afford their defense, and I believe they. So where was the money and why couldn’t they get it if this was all so important? I don’t know the answers to any of this but I think we should all think about it a little. This isn’t me trying to imply anything at all. I genuinely wonder if this was such an important case where was all the fucking money when they needed it. Rando victims of police violence have no problem generating millions of dollars from random idiots so what really happened here?
A real investigator should ask that question but there might be something important that we aren’t talking about.
FWIW if I’m misunderstood that’s on me but I’m also not trying to have the conversation that’s trying to happen here. I was trying to have a different one. But that’s ok next time.
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Thanks Silent, great to meet you in person by the way. Are you going to PlanB?
The true fact is that dinosaurs all breathed fire and all of the produce methane was used for fire breathing so none of it actually came out of their butt so this is false and I’m sorry Corey.
Adolescent rebellion without reintegration is catastrophe.
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