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Alekandar Svetski
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Building: Satlantis.io Wrote: UnCommunist & Bushido Of Bitcoin

lol. The point of this post is not to just plop your head in the sand like an ostrich. Nostr might be fine technically, but things like BlueSky are growing at 30x the pace - and they are technically inferior.

Network effects matter. Without them, networks are dead. Nostr is far from meaningful critical mass

Why Nostr is struggling…

There is too much of an overlap with X, not only in the feature sets among the primary applications, but more importantly, in the kind of audience that Nostr is catering to.

Sure..censorship resistance at the protocol level is a differentiator, but the to the average person, you may as well be talking gibberish. They don’t know wtf a protocol is in the first place - let alone why it matters for censorship resistance to happen at that level, or more importantly, WHY they should trust Nostr to deliver on that promise. “Bcoz nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m said so” is not an argument.

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Bluesky is a case in point here.

It’s got a VERY similar feature set to X, claims to be open source / censorship resistant (similar narrative to Nostr), and is growing MUCH faster than Nostr, bc it has captured a key audience, ie; people with TDS and EDS (Elon Derangement Syndrome).

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/bluesky-signups-surge-uk-amid-musks-row-with-government-over-riots-2024-08-13/?

I’ve been on there a few times, and the content quality is enough to make you want to throw up….but at the very least, it’s working for that kind of content, and for the people who want it.

I don’t have a direct answer here..but I think it’s something to do with the over-emphasis on technicals.

nostr:npub1az9xj85cmxv8e9j9y80lvqp97crsqdu2fpu3srwthd99qfu9qsgstam8y8 mentioned increasing the emphasis on design the other day. I agree this is a move in the right direction. We’re taking a very design-focused approach with nostr:npub15xd2mmjnh3caykh77djsv73e0zkrp42jp5mwerx8f4m6su40wdvss7t3l3 (we’ll have ALOT more to show in the next 6wks).

That being said, it’s not enough.

IMO, Nostr is technically mature enough for us to go out there and talk about it to more people, and build a narrative BEYOND the 500 of us that are talking to each other on here.

People like nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft or nostr:npub1dergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsh9xzpc can correct me if I am wrong here. Maybe there’s alot more to do technically.

But if I am right, I’d like to see more initiatives that are marketing oriented being supported by nostr:npub17xvf49kht23cddxgw92rvfktkd3vqvjgkgsdexh9847wl0927tqsrhc9as and nostr:npub10pensatlcfwktnvjjw2dtem38n6rvw8g6fv73h84cuacxn4c28eqyfn34f and other coalitions. Maybe we even need a council of Nostr businesses, who together pool some funds to help drive some marketing initiatives?

Whatever the case, we need to expand upon the Nostr narrative, make it more compelling and speak to more people about it.

At the very least, we have to conquer then Bitcoiners. If we can’t get the segment who are into freedom money onto the freedom of speech network, we’re DOA. That’s a first step.

I know nostr:npub1hz5alqscpp8yjrvgsdp2n4ygkl8slvstrgvmjca7e45w6644ew7sewtysa is working on a very cool initiative in relation to this. The Nostr Booth is IMO a great way to make Nostr more “real” for bitcoiners by having a physical presence at all the conferences.

I know nostr:npub1utx00neqgqln72j22kej3ux7803c2k986henvvha4thuwfkper4s7r50e8 + nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 are doing some Podcast outreach. That’s super important too. nostr:npub16vrkgd28wq6n0h77lqgu8h4fdu0eapxgyj0zqq6ngfvjf2vs3nuq5mp2va and crew are putting on Nostriga. Amazing. nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr / nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg are doing great things with nostr:npub1spdnfacgsd7lk0nlqkq443tkq4jx9z6c6ksvaquuewmw7d3qltpslcq6j7, etc on the content side. I’ve got some things up my sleeve personally which I will begin to do once nostr:npub15xd2mmjnh3caykh77djsv73e0zkrp42jp5mwerx8f4m6su40wdvss7t3l3 is in a position to represent a NEW kind of Nostr-product..

But we need MOAR..

And…we also need to find another angle that is NOT about censorship resistance. That’s clearly not working against X.

I don’t know the EXACT narrative or spin, but it has to be more “running towards” than “running from”.

More white pill, less black pill.

Anyway.

I will probably turn this into an article. I’ve been thinking more and more about “writing in public” as we build Satlantis, and sharing more about how we’re thinking about growing a “network product” on top of a “network protocol”.

If you think this was valuable, please repoast so more people can see and get involved in the discussion.

Typical…

And you know what?

The only thing actually stopping her from doing all those things now is her own stupid belief system.

We also need to fund people who are willing to take Nostr to market.

Design and dev is not enough. You need content creators, event managers, the whole thing.

Check out what nostr:npub1693220pmp0a4c04a0p7hkz874vsxkyfrvtk2yk4zjyj3e4c0ugjs3r4j0c is doing with the 21Q book.

Check out what nostr:npub1hz5alqscpp8yjrvgsdp2n4ygkl8slvstrgvmjca7e45w6644ew7sewtysa is doing with the Nostr Booth initiative.

Just because things look pretty, doesn’t mean people will come.

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I have been using Nostr for two years now, and the lack of a NIP-09 (event delete) or its equivalent standard on Nostr is, more than ever, a significant privacy and safety issue built into the current version of the protocol.

Snowden warned us of the dangers of a permanent record. Have we not learned anything?

Nostr, as it is right now, is a permanent record that seeks to tie all of your apps and your coin transactions to one key pair.

If that key pair is ever compromised, EVERYTHING is compromised.

If you accidentally doxx yourself, you are HOSED.

It's bad OPSEC. And it sounds like a honeypot waiting to happen.

Amber (event signer) is a decent workaround, but it has not passed a third-party security audit, and I still believe a parent/child key system is the way to go as it does not expand your attack surface by having to depend on a third party to keep all of your Nostr business safe.

Now back to event deletion...

The protocol is the protocol. Relays must use the protocol to participate in the network.

If the protocol requires honoring event deletion requests to participate in the network, then Nostr will have avoided this festering security and safety issue.

If certain #Nostr devs don't stop saying universal post deletes can't happen because of xyz (insert biased limiting belief/excuse here), and start figuring out how it can be done... it's a protocol design that's dead in the water to anything but mostly nameless, faceless anons.

The future is privacy-first, client-side computing, not relays. The clock is ticking.

Thank you for sharing this.

It’s something the team and I have been grappling with while building on Nostr.

One of the guys might be working on something. No stress. There’s some major updates coming but it will take a couple weeks.

That being said, the site shouldn’t be frozen, so I’ll get onto them now.

nostr:npub1sy70twa0vadtk8hjs6wt2hmfszduj04tw78ccs3ktmr9u99mfmqsj62srx

nostr:npub1wyr6yzts85g8wemdyspzjw06jk4j5htywhfrknetwqluzl7twz7qaczxsh

I am looking for someone who loves to read and write, already spends a lot of their time on either Nostr or Bitcoin Xitter and wants to channel what they’re learning into something more meaningful via WRITING.

This is a PAID apprentice role.

I am specifically looking for someone young and hungry that wants to get in the game, learn, get some runs on the board and in time, either build their own personal brand, collaborate on a future project or have doors opened to bigger opportunities.

More details in link below:

https://laier-two-labs-inc.breezy.hr/p/ac350a8fe2de01-content-apprentice

Know someone?

Tag or send them this..

Your heritage, religion, culture, peers and genetics determine what laws and norms you do follow and abide by, and which you do not.

Individual liberty is not common in >95% of the world, and importing people on mass without such a cultural basis is CLEARLY a recipe for disaster.

I just posted a video (my latest note)

Please take a couple minutes out to watch it - and notice how futile such policies are. Then look at how potentially dangerous their outcomes are - followed by thinking about whether or not this is a worthwhile exercise