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Poisonous anti-plantist, anti-fungist, anti-shitcoinist, anti-governmentalist, anti-wokist, anti-bullshitist.

I hope not too much to get hypervitaminosis.

Anyway, I don't like the taste. I don't eat organs. No scurvy. But I'm a random anon. We have solid scientific arguments why it works that were presented by every carnivore educator I've seen. No need to repeat them I guess.

Replying to Avatar Dissident Sound

you are one dumb motherfucker aren't you ?

here is a quote from an article:

https://nobleorigins.com/blogs/articles/in-1928-vilhjalmur-stefansson-ate-nothing-but-meat-and-water-for-an-entire-year-what-happened-next-was-astonishing?srsltid=AfmBOoo1RCA-zmAyDFT1NgfvE-hjKWAxDSM_FTSQrEO3Ao6xyHxrEIYp

about the experiment:

"The men also ensured that they did not contract scurvy because they were intentional about eating the entire animal including the bones, organs, and brain."

he specifically ate liver every week to prevent Scurvy.

if Stefansson experiment proved anything is that you're a stupid bitch !

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Well, you're the one being trigerred and not understanding that liver is carnivore 🤷‍♂️

Doesn't matter, I'm just a random anon and that experiment already disproves the need for supplementation.

Definitely get a good hardware wallet. Trezor is great for instance.

Also consider using vexl.it or other way of local trading so that your information doesn't leak into the government.

Just because you used one that was shit doesn't mean all of them are. Though 2 of 2 I tried so far were unusable for my goals so you may be onto something.

Woke person on a social network designed to be uncensorable and with direct integration of ultra-capitalistic tool (sound money, AKA Bitcoin)? That's new! Enjoy undermining your values!

Funny how someone who didn't catch reference to fat calls others retard. But maybe I am for not considering humans as animals. 🤷‍♂️

Defensless animals don't have enough fat for me. I prefer animals with horns. They taste better too and filter out plant toxins better.

I'm actually trying to eat even more. They can go fuck themselves. I will relocate if forced to - if they are lucky. My pre-carnivore mental state is very dangerous to anyone who would cause it again.

While I think it's correct to exclude people who are not fit (or visibly in the process of getting fit) when taking advice the assumption that whatever works for someone else will work for you is quite nuanced.

In principle, all other species eat their appropriate diets and there are no species where individuals eat vastly different diet. (e.g. no lions eat plants, no cows hunt for meat) Thus it's very likely it should be true for humans as well. However some differences definitely are present. The most famous example being lactose tolerance.

Thus if you observe that someone eats carbs and feels fine it may be that the person has higher carb tolerance. You may have high tolerance too or not but don't know for sure until you try. Though if you feel amazing and very happy and don't have symptoms of illnes or aging it's very likely you're fine.

Note that I specifically mentioned aging because some symptims that are commonly attributed to aging can be reversed with lifestyle change which suggests they actually aren't symptoms of aging.

Either way, good luck if you ever decide to try it out!

Replying to Avatar Papa Figos

But again, if we look at what actually happened, it's bitcoin that's had an inflation bug.

Monero had a flaw that luckily (and yeah, it was just dumb luck) was never exploited.

Back in the day bitcoin was rolled back and the billions of bitcoins created just vanished. Would that work today? Probably not. Or it would at least severely hamper trust in the system.

Bitcoin was very small back then, it's no longer the case and it hasn't been for awhile.

This to say, transparent or opaque, you can have inflation bugs all the same. And ironically (because the opaqueness of Monero is often criticized in the context of it potentially giving rise to such bugs) it actually happened in Bitcoin.

At the end of the day, there are different tradeoffs. In the case of this specific critical Monero bug that was not exploited, it was possible to scan the chain for exploitation of the bug. I am not 100% certain that this would be possible for every kind of bug of the sort, the answer is probably not - so it is an ever-present risk that Monero's supply might not entirely match the expected curve.

In short, Bitcoin's radical transparency doesn't *prevent* inflation bugs from being exploited, as its history shows, but the transparency does allow for quick detection of such an attack, at the cost of unintendendly (to be charitable) facilitating a mass-surveillance system, even though it is dubious that Bitcoin's reputation wouldn't take a massive hit if another inflation bug is exploited and the chain needs rolling back again..

.. whereas Monero's opaqueness doesn't *necessarily* prevent us from scanning the chain for exploits, at least in some of the potential scenarios - we know because this happened - while enabling every user to have pretty decent privacy and anonymity, with some edge cases (for the moment) which we already touched on previously.

As always.. there are no solutions, only tradeoffs.

All things considered, the wiser option to me seems to be holding BTC even considering the ever-looming possibility of another inflation bug, while spending Monero as digital cash whenever possible.

By "lose" I meant the network being destroyed by the scaling issue and inflation that's already happening, not bugs.

Replying to Avatar Papa Figos

Same with bitcoin, neither one scales at it exists now. There's nowhere near enough block capacity for even 1/4 of people on the planet to open a channel in any timely fashion.

The IP issue is a bit different, in lightning your peer will know your IP, but also your channel id, balance, etc. Compounding that is the fact that the non-custodial lightning wallets (where you don't run a node on the phone a la zeus) that are more widely used, use trampoline routing. So they know who you're paying.

In Monero you have the issue where a malicious node can error out as you attempt to spend, and if you resubmit the tx one of the outputs in the decoys will remain constant, revealing that you own it.

As far as I know that's the only thing. But yes, at the network level, use Tor and to some extent mitigate either scenario (which 99% of users will never do of course).

The LN scenario leaks more info if you compare them side by side.

Regarding the funds potentially being stolen after 2w, it's not about the attacker predicting the future or not. It's about there being a constant risk as well as the incentive to do so.

Since most (99%+) channels are public, and since most user channels are not involved in routing, it is trivial for an attacker to monitor usage patterns and increase their odds.

I don't know about you, but for me I would not risk having on lightning any amount that I would regret losing in the first place, first because it's a hot wallet (pretty much the entire network is, really, which is yolo at its finest), second because a year from now when I check, the funds might just not be there anymore.

There is also the issue of upkeep. I don't run any LN nodes anymore because the hassle simply wasn't worth it.

Finally, regarding edge cases, yes they exist, but the known ones will be going away with FCMP soon™. They're easy enough to work around with, but I agree, it's a weakness. A small one in the grand scheme of things, but it doesn't have to be there - which is why they're going away.

About the catastrophic bug, yes, I am aware. And it was luck indeed.

But don't forget Bitcoin has suffered a catastrophic inflation bug (see https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Value_overflow_incident ) in the past, requiring a rollback of the chain (which never happened in Monero), as well as a host of serious bugs that would've ground the network to a halt (could link them here, but they're easy to find).

In other words, software has bugs.

Lightning, incidentally, has had its fair share of trainwreck bugs as well as potential ones (see https://protos.com/bitcoin-lightning-bug-could-jam-and-steal-millions-of-dollars/ and https://protos.com/bitcoin-lightning-network-users-could-have-lost-millions-in-jamming-attack/ and https://protos.com/researchers-discover-critical-bitcoin-lightning-network-vulnerability/ and dozens of others), further cementing in my mind that it's not worth it to risk having a lot of money there.

And because using lightning non-custodially implies opening channels, and each onchain tx is another nail in the coffin privacy-wise.. I end up defaulting to Monero most of the time.

Now, don't get me wrong, it would actually be less friction if I could use BTC privately without all the tradeoffs just mentioned, since I basically hodl zero Monero proportional to Bitcoin.

But I care about privacy as a human right a lot, and unfortunately Bitcoin and privacy rarely go well in the same sentence.

I wish that were different, but it isn't right now, at least not satisfactorily in my analysis, which is exactly why I use Monero.

It's not that much about block capacity (which is determined by Internet capacity, btw) but more about a computation. In Monero it'd roughly quadratic, in bitcoin it's linear. (I'm simplifying, it's not about precise numbers.)

If you want privacy on LN you need to use appropriately private solution. Complaining about shitty LN wallets is dishonest because shitty wallets exist for Monero too (sending the view key to a server). Side note: trampoline routing was specifically invented to protect sender's privacy. You're confusing it with something else.

Another Monero issue: if you repeatedly (at least twice) get your xmr from the same source that knows your identity (e.g. KYC exchange) and then use it to buy something from the same entity (e.g. dark market) and the data of the receivers leak (feds close the market) then it's possible for your money source (or whoever coerces it to hand over the data, e.g. feds) to track you down with extremely high probability. This vulnerability doesn't exist in LN. (I'm assuming in both cases you withdraw coins to your wallet first.)

The key difference between LN and Monero is if LN leaks only some entities get the information. Monero is stored onchain forever (e.g. the edge case above) which is quite ironic since Monero fans were criticizing Bitcoin for precisely this reason.

The incentive to steal on LN is pure fantasy. The thief is risking loss with quite high probability. And funnily enough, there exists incentive to trick thieves into attempting to steal because that results in reward. Thus it's safer to not steal.

I also don't get the obsession with hot wallet issue. Whether you lose money on LN with some low probability or to Monero inflation with certainty doesn't really matter much.

I don't understand why you replied to me replying to you saying that LN has bugs by pointing out that Monero has bugs too with mentioning Bitcoin has bugs too. You said it already. Everything has bugs, let's focus on design instead.

The irony in LN is that "public" channels are actually private and "private" are actually public. And whoever claims that 99% of channels are public is pulling it out of their ass because nobody sees how many private channels exist. And "public" also means "involved in routing", so you're contradicting yourself.

Monitoring LN is much more costly and complicated than people imagine. The attacker must provide many high-quality nodes that actually provide good service.

Also it seems you've fallen prey to another myth about onchain opening/closing transactions leaking stuff. It effectively doesn't. The information is super scrambled by the time you close channel, nobody can tell shit from it.

Finally, I don't understand your rhetoric. You mention that you want privacy for yourself but at the same time you're mentioning "most people". Which is it? "Most people" will never use Monero anyway, so why bother with them? Better onboard them on LN even with shitty wallets because they at least increase the anonset. 🙂