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No king except God. Liberty and Revolution are Islamic Concepts.

Because translating their words shows they are worse than the nazis that helped create their Zionist settlement

He is trying to emulate the great Muslim Speaker Malcolm God have mercy on his blessed soul. Of course he can try but will never be nowhere near the Great Maclolm who was a truly free man unlike bolstein the puppet.

Bolstein is a UAE puppet. Directed same script more or less with other UAE influencers.

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Of course my point of view is for building a new constitution for a new state someday in the Muslim world God willing and we can take the good ideas from around the world that fit Islam building from the Qur'an and the Prophetic Constitution with its "amendments/additions" like the treaty of Najran, etc provably and the verifiable and verified hadiths about governance and community, etc that are usually hidden or covered up or unjustly weakened that nobody wants to talk about or try to study, relying on the works of mawardi and such only who are people of their times which are most surely nothing like the Prophetic model of freedoms that the world has never seen before and still only has parts of.

Freedoms of succession, independence, autonomy, direct and decentralized governance, rights of bearing arms and defending yourself and people and property and rights and others, right to revolution, to accounting the governers who are merely agents of the people to be changed whenever they like and to be overruled whenever they vote, not impeding on majority/minority/community/individual rights, etc not punishing for anything that God hasn't said to be punished in this life as in governance, with the only thing i can think of being public adultery intercourse and that's for Muslims only a few non damaging public shaming lashes. Even the few narrations of alcohol drinking for Muslims punishment are shaky and need to be studied and understood. Obviously anyone can drink and do whatever stupid shit in the privacy of their properties no one can impede on that but if they're Muslims they have a reckoning in the real life the afterlife.

*reverified hadith I meant as in studied again and proved, not relying on Bukhari or Muslim with their great work, of course, but it doesn't mean we can't do better or more, proving hadiths that might not be in those archives but in others and disproving hadiths that Bukhari and/or Muslim thought to be authentic, etc.

This is actually a cool idea provability of marriage beyond government archives/borders more provable and global ๐Ÿ˜…

Of course my point of view is for building a new constitution for a new state someday in the Muslim world God willing and we can take the good ideas from around the world that fit Islam building from the Qur'an and the Prophetic Constitution with its "amendments/additions" like the treaty of Najran, etc provably and the verifiable and verified hadiths about governance and community, etc that are usually hidden or covered up or unjustly weakened that nobody wants to talk about or try to study, relying on the works of mawardi and such only who are people of their times which are most surely nothing like the Prophetic model of freedoms that the world has never seen before and still only has parts of.

Freedoms of succession, independence, autonomy, direct and decentralized governance, rights of bearing arms and defending yourself and people and property and rights and others, right to revolution, to accounting the governers who are merely agents of the people to be changed whenever they like and to be overruled whenever they vote, not impeding on majority/minority/community/individual rights, etc not punishing for anything that God hasn't said to be punished in this life as in governance, with the only thing i can think of being public adultery intercourse and that's for Muslims only a few non damaging public shaming lashes. Even the few narrations of alcohol drinking for Muslims punishment are shaky and need to be studied and understood. Obviously anyone can drink and do whatever stupid shit in the privacy of their properties no one can impede on that but if they're Muslims they have a reckoning in the real life the afterlife.

God bless you brother, my ultimate hope in this life is to live in Islamic governance that is provable and verifiable not some copy paste of past ideologies or civs that have agression or not a good foundational ideology.

Even simple freedoms like freedom of speech(which are guaranteed by the Quran even horrible anti God speech and by the example of the Prophet PBUH not killing/punishing anyone who insulted him or God like the Jews who say that God's hands are tied or cuffed, may God be exalted above what they describe) and such since i live in "Saudi" Arabia where tens of thousands are imprisoned for differences of opinions with the "sacred" family of Saud even relatives of mine now residing in political prisons with none of my other relatives even daring to do anything or organize all ruined by fear and cowardice and fake Saudified Islam that's built on fake monarchy/dictatorship mathhabs of Sunnism built on making companions sacred and as if they're another source of Islam even if contradictory even if not actually Muslim or just, etc.. that sacred idol companion that changed islam from shura(consultation amongst the believers) to mulk(monarchy) and oppression and silencing of hadiths that don't fit his agenda. Following these types of mathhabs and ideas leads to obvious contradictions with Qur'an, Verifiable Prophetic Tradition which doesn't contradict the Qur'an, and innatenes/fitra and reason(brain) which you have to use obviously to discern what's true.

ps: even the famous so called hadd of ridda doesn't exist not in Qur'an and not in the Prophetic tradition unless you specify one part of a speech and focus on it and forget Qur'an exists like the famous misused hadith they use for the claim of hadd ridda and they forget to use Classical arabic and reason and use Qur'an and other hadiths where they contradict clearly with it with the Qur'an guaranteeing no compulsion in ideology/worldview aka deen and the Prophet pbuh never punishing anyone for the simple act of disbelief like the example of the person that said to the Prophet pbuh "be just Oh Muhammad for you haven't" ุฅุนุฏู„ ูŠุง ู…ุญู…ุฏ ูุฅู†ูƒ ู„ู… ุชุนุฏู„ when he was giving Zakat if i remember correctly.

See that he just became a disbeliever right infront of the Prophet pbuh for saying that and he wasn't punished even though omar ra wanted to punish him. The evidence here being the Prophet pbuh since he is the messenger of God no one else.

https://sunnah.com/muslim:1063a

The Constitution of the USA is closer to Islam than anything the Muslim world has. I think even more so Switzerland with its direct democracy and decentralization.

Jihad to defend is always permissible not only that but obligatory. Muslims should always defend themselves and property and rights and eachother. No matter where they live.

There is the in between in the grave where good people receive good comfort and evil people receive some form of punishment but idk for how long i also know of a hadith that the believers death is like a comfortable sleep ans they wake up the day of judgement like they're waking up for their wedding night (as in the time of the fun not the stressful party organizing lol)

Same time demon cheney goes to hell. God is mocking the evil empire. With all their "might" and money and influence.

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Also what about the hadiths about Muawiya being the Pharaoh of this Ummah, and the Prophet pbuh said it in a non direct way he said it is between Muawiya and Abu Dharr and we know Abu Dhar didn't have anything near governance or anything problematic like being a mass murdering tyrant who tried to silence any hadiths and allowed the flow of whatever he liked and whatever he said as truth then being enhrined as a sacred idol in the Umayyad dynasty and even beyond being the main reason of monarchy /dictatorshipand if you say anything about him you're effectively an enemy of any state that is like that in the Islamic world throughout history.

The research proving/authenticating this hadith:

https://t.me/mo2allafaty/32

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Problem is most Muslims are sectarian and can't get away from what Muawiya enshrined as islam :

Monarchy/Governance of whoever wins power, Dictatorship, Sacred Companions that you can build rulings from even if contradictory to the Qur'an or Prophet pbuh and ruining reason when you accept everyone's narration about the Prophet pbuh even if they're mass murdering liars who don't care about Islam that would demolish Islam itself so how do you solve that?

And why is there no Islamic governance like the Prophetic model or even Rashidun Caliphate for millennia?

There are hadiths about this that have been hidden (not talked about and sometimes falsely weakened) like the hadith about that first of islam that goes away is governance and the last is prayer, another hadith is the first and last of my ummah is its best and what's between is muddy, another hadith is: most of my nation's hypocrites are its scholars, another hadith is: ''Be upright to Quraysh (the rulers) as long as they're to you, but if they're not put your swords on your shoulders then eradicate them but if you don't then you'll be suffering croppers eating from your hard labor'' btw prophet pbuh saying quraysh here is just based on him knowing that arabs will only choose quraysh people at his time and that obviously has changed just as people change in every time and people's moods change and it doesn't allow the understanding of quraysh as the only allowed rulers because there are other hadiths like the one of: โ€œEven if the one appointed over you is a mutilated Ethiopian slave whose nose and ears have been cut off, listen to him and obey, so long as he leads you according to the Book of Allah.โ€ ( https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:2861 ) and the verses of shura that contradict this understanding because consultation is amongst the believers.

I advise please to read at least the works about Monarchy being kufr as in not islamic governance, the fundamentals of rulings and if you can the main book which is called Tawheed (because it uses it to refute Wahhabism and establishes Foundations about islam and reasoning, etc) there are other books that would be very beneficial and we can discuss. The works is backed by Qur'an and heavily researched verified hadiths, narrations, etc so it's not empty or useless it is bringing forth understanding of Islam based on the Prophetic model and proving it and disproving big hurdles like fake contradictory hadiths and schools of thought in "Islam" that have plagued Muslims into following the Judeo-Christian /Caesa-Khosrow ways of Churches and Scholarly Sacredness and Hierarchy and obedience to the tyrants and making a lot halal things haram and making halal things haram but basically everything is ok for the people in power because to uprise is supposedly fitna even though fitna is actually being oppressed and not being able to apply Islam and have your complete rights.

Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported Allah's Messenger (๏ทบ) as saying:

You would tread the same path as was trodden by those before you inch by inch and step by step so much so that if they had entered into the hole of the lizard, you would follow them in this also. We said: Allah's Messenger, do you mean Jews and Christians (by your words)" those before you"? He said: Who else (than those two religious groups)?

https://sunnah.com/muslim:2669a

A different narration talks about following in the ways of Caesar and Khosrow (Monarchy /Dictatorship)

Problem is most Muslims are sectarian and can't get away from what Muawiya enshrined as islam :

Monarchy/Governance of whoever wins power, Dictatorship, Sacred Companions that you can build rulings from even if contradictory to the Qur'an or Prophet pbuh and ruining reason when you accept everyone's narration about the Prophet pbuh even if they're mass murdering liars who don't care about Islam that would demolish Islam itself so how do you solve that?

And why is there no Islamic governance like the Prophetic model or even Rashidun Caliphate for millennia?

There are hadiths about this that have been hidden (not talked about and sometimes falsely weakened) like the hadith about that first of islam that goes away is governance and the last is prayer, another hadith is the first and last of my ummah is its best and what's between is muddy, another hadith is: most of my nation's hypocrites are its scholars, another hadith is: ''Be upright to Quraysh (the rulers) as long as they're to you, but if they're not put your swords on your shoulders then eradicate them but if you don't then you'll be suffering croppers eating from your hard labor'' btw prophet pbuh saying quraysh here is just based on him knowing that arabs will only choose quraysh people at his time and that obviously has changed just as people change in every time and people's moods change and it doesn't allow the understanding of quraysh as the only allowed rulers because there are other hadiths like the one of: โ€œEven if the one appointed over you is a mutilated Ethiopian slave whose nose and ears have been cut off, listen to him and obey, so long as he leads you according to the Book of Allah.โ€ ( https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:2861 ) and the verses of shura that contradict this understanding because consultation is amongst the believers.

I advise please to read at least the works about Monarchy being kufr as in not islamic governance, the fundamentals of rulings and if you can the main book which is called Tawheed (because it uses it to refute Wahhabism and establishes Foundations about islam and reasoning, etc) there are other books that would be very beneficial and we can discuss. The works is backed by Qur'an and heavily researched verified hadiths, narrations, etc so it's not empty or useless it is bringing forth understanding of Islam based on the Prophetic model and proving it and disproving big hurdles like fake contradictory hadiths and schools of thought in "Islam" that have plagued Muslims into following the Judeo-Christian /Caesa-Khosrow ways of Churches and Scholarly Sacredness and Hierarchy and obedience to the tyrants and making a lot halal things haram and making halal things haram but basically everything is ok for the people in power because to uprise is supposedly fitna even though fitna is actually being oppressed and not being able to apply Islam and have your complete rights.