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Replying to Avatar markusturm

![]()## Was ist Lendasat?

[Lendasat](https://borrow.lendasat.com/registration?ref=LAS-VHGIO) ist eine Bitcoin-Kreditplattform, an der ihr als Kreditnehmer oder Kreditgeber teilnehmen können.

Kreditnehmer erhalten Stablecoin- oder Fiat-Kredite und nutzen Bitcoin als Sicherheit. Kreditgeber erhalten Zinsen auf ihre Stablecoins oder Fiat-Kredite, indem sie Liquidität für solche Kredite bereitstellen.\

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Das besondere an [Lendasat](https://borrow.lendasat.com/registration?ref=LAS-VHGIO), es ist KYC-frei!

> **Falls du diesen Artikel hilfreich findest, schicke mir ein paar Sats:**\

> [**Markus T**](https://getalby.com/p/markusturm)**urm**

## **Wer vergibt Kredite bei Lendasat?**

Lendasat ist eine Peer-to-Peer-Plattform (P2P), auf der Kredite bilateral zwischen Personen – Kreditnehmern mit Bitcoin-Besitz und Kreditgebern mit Stablecoins – vergeben werden.

[Lendasat](https://borrow.lendasat.com/registration?ref=LAS-VHGIO) nutzt hier ein 2/3 Multisig, in Zukunft sind DLCs für das Sicherheitenmanagement und die reibungslose Abwicklung zwischen Kreditnehmern und Investoren geplant.

## Welchen Bitcoin-Betrag benötige ich für einen Kredit?

Das Verhältnis zwischen den Bitcoin die ihr als Sicherheit hinterlegen müsst und dem fälligen Betrag (Betrag + Zinsen) eures Kredits beträgt in der Regel 2x.

Wenn ihr beispielsweise 1.000 USD für ein Jahr zu 6 % leihen möchten (fälliger Betrag ⇒ 1.000 + 6 % = 1.060 USD), müsst ihr Bitcoin im Wert von 2.120 USD hinterlegen.

Darüber hinaus kommen noch Lendasat-Bearbeitungsgebühren in Höhe von 1,5 % des Nominalbetrags hinzu, diese werden nur dem Kreditnehmer angezeigt.\

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Grundsätzlich sind 2x bei der Sicherheit aber nicht fix, der Kreditgeber kann weniger verlangen, für den Kreditnehmer ist dies aber nur ein minimum, er kann auch eine höhere Sicherheit hinterlegen.

## Verleihen von Liquide Tether

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Wenn ihr beispielsweise in der Aqua Wallet einige Tether auf Liquid verfügbar habt, könnt ihr diese auf Lendasat als Kredit anbieten. Dabei habt ihr die Möglichkeit, individuelle Konditionen festzulegen, wie etwa:

- **Zinssatz** – die Höhe der Verzinsung

- **Kredithöhe** – der maximale Kreditbetrag

- **Besicherung (LTV – Loan to Value)** – das Verhältnis von Kreditsumme zum Wert der Sicherheit

So bestimmt ihr selbst die Rahmenbedingungen eures Kreditangebots.

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Einen Kredit aufnehmen

Hier habt ihr die Möglichkeit zwischen verschiedenen Angeboten zu wählen, sei es Laufzeit, Zinssatz, auf welcher Chain die Stablecoins laufen usw.\

Die meisten angebotenen Kredite sind Endfällig (Bullet), man findet aber auch welche die laufen Monatlich. \

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[Hier geht es zur Platform](https://borrow.lendasat.com/registration?ref=LAS-VHGIO)

![]()## Wozu braucht ihr so einen Kredit?

Das hängt ganz von eurer individuellen Situation ab – diese Entscheidung könnt nur ihr selbst treffen. [Lendasat](https://borrow.lendasat.com/registration?ref=LAS-VHGIO) bietet euch jedoch die Möglichkeit, vollständig ohne KYC entweder einen Kredit in Fiat aufzunehmen oder selbst als Kreditgeber Fiat zu verleihen. Beide Optionen stehen euch offen.

> F**alls du diesen Artikel hilfreich fandest, lasse mir ein paar Sats da:**\

> [**Markus T**](https://getalby.com/p/markusturm)**urm**

Danke für den guten Artikel. Zappen ging nicht wegen eines Fehlers. Ich vermute ein Problem mit dem Ermitteln der LURL. Ich versuche es später.

#christmas #21candles

Maybe see the custodial approach as a solution for the transition till you have more transactions. I use AlbyHub for over a year now and, despite I have some times issues with channels going down temporarily, it works mostly pretty well. I had only one channel closed and it was a long time ago. Thanks for the services you are providing, that's awesome.

Indeed, I'm givining it a try, I like the idea. I'll check what my issue is. Thanks for checking on your side!

Ok, thanks for checking. In a session today I had something like this 2 or 3 times. Maybe it is an issue with Roo code, I don't know.

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I've been thinking of 'Cashu Channels', as they might be useful in nostr:npub1zzt0d0s2f4lsanpd7nkjep5r79p7ljq7aw37eek64hf0ef6v0mxqgwljrv to be very efficient in transferring tiny amounts of cashu at an extremely high volume. We want the device and the router to be able to update their mutual balance - without trust - and without needing any communication with the mint. The mint is involved in setting up the Cashu Channel and in closing the channel a few hours later; but the mint is not needed during the millions of tiny cashu-balance-updates in between.

In Lighting, after two parties have set up a channel and their funding transaction is confirmed in the blockchain, the two parties can move balance over and back in their channel with zero communication with any third party; they simply sign updated commitment transactions and revocations. In nostr:npub1zzt0d0s2f4lsanpd7nkjep5r79p7ljq7aw37eek64hf0ef6v0mxqgwljrv , this could be useful as the device needs to send tiny amounts to the router at very high volume. In our Tollgate use case, we may want to support billions of such transactions and we want zero communication with the mint during this time.

This isn't possible in Cashu today, but I feel like it could be supported with the right NUTs.

Let's simplify by having all transfers in one direction, from A (my phone) to B (the Tollgate router). Initially, with the cooperation of the mint, A "locks up" some of their cashu in a special 2-of-2 multisig token that can be spent with the cooperation of A and B, and which reverts to A after a suitable delay (a few days?).

Now the 'Cashu channel' is active and they don't need to talk to the mint any more. Each time A wants to transfer a tiny amount of Bitcoin to B, A signs a updated 'commitment' transaction:

"Of the original 50,000 sats in the 2-of-2 multisig, A agrees that 2,315 of those sats can be redeemed unilaterally by B. Signed, A"

Instead of immediately redeeming though, B just continues providing service to A and A continually updates the balance and signs the updated commitment transaction, adding a few (milli)sats each time.

Finally, to 'close the channel', B can take the latest signed 'commitment transaction' and get a few sats from the mint, and A is seperately able to approach the mint for the remainder of the sats.

I've been trying to squeeze this into the exiting Cashu protocol, where a Cashu 'proof' could be sent over and back an arbitrary amount of times with something like Lightning's revocations, but I can't see how to make it work trustlessly.

That's a very interesting idea.

The first sentence deserves attention and respect. The second one is a shame.

There is still a pain point for users to configure or run a DNS server. Do you have more critics?

Tolle Folge! Ich habe auch ähnlich gedacht, als ich von Saylors Rede mit den 21 Millionen gelesen habe. Ich vermisse im Space das kritische Denken an der Stelle. Aber mein Highlight war mit den geplanten Rüstungsausgaben in Deutschland. Ich denke, es spricht nichts dagegen sich gut verteidigen zu können, aber aus meiner Sicht ist völlig vermessen, was die Politiker ohne uns beschließen. Da geht es um Angriffskriegen. Ich bin auf die kommenden Münzgassen sehr gespannt. Danke!

https://fountain.fm/episode/Ll10SAIyxn0eviJlU90t

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Replying to Avatar Lieder-Fuzzi

Was meint ihr, soll ich ausgewählte Lieder, wie z.B.

"Ich will Köpfe rollen seh'n"

auch in anderen Versionen machen ?

Nicht jeder mag den harten Rock, den ich für das Lied (passend, wie ich finde) gewählt habe.

Ich könnte mir das Lied auch im Stil eines Reinhard Mey vorstellen.

Oder welchen Musikstil würdet ihr wählen ?

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Ich würde auch meinen Crossover oder Rapp passt auch dazu.

GM Satoshi, happy birthday and best wishes!

Replying to Avatar bitcoinplebdev

FROSTR RELEASE!

https://frostr.org

So excited to announce we have signed releases for:

- Igloo: Frostr keyset manager and signer (Desktop App)

- Frost2x: Frostr Signer Extension (Browser Extension)

This is a secure & minimal setup for operating a 2/3 multisig for your NSEC

Please give it a try, be extremely cautious, and give us any feedback! nostr:npub1gg5uy8cpqx4u8wj9yvlpwm5ht757vudmrzn8y27lwunt5f2ytlusklulq3 nostr:npub1s9etjgzjglwlaxdhsveq0qksxyh6xpdpn8ajh69ruetrug957r3qpklxzl

https://plebdevs-bucket.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/videos/random/frostr-demo-3.mp4

Congrats, it is amazing!

Replying to Avatar bitboy Defense

Ha habido ya un caso en que se ha declarado la nulidad de una marca que reproducía el logo, cuyo titular pretendía evitar que otros hicieran uso de esas imágenes. Aquí se explica el caso:

https://maestreabogados.com/juzgado-declara-nulidad-marca-bitcoin/

La cuestión es que hay otras marcas que están en la misma situación. Como indica Miguel Vidal: "no se trata de un prurito nominalista, sino que quien logra registrar el logo y nombre de Bitcoin en la @OEPM_es puede impedir legalmente su uso en España a todo el mundo (en ese sector). O extorsionarte si quieres usarlo"

https://x.com/mvidallopez/status/1889603831798936029

Entiendo, buena iniciativa! Gracias.

Replying to Avatar bitboy Defense

[Español]

Anunciamos el proyecto bitboydefense para defender el uso libre de las imágenes que el usuario "bitboy" creó en 2010 y que se han convertido en los logos "oficiales" de Bitcoin.

Hay personas que pretenden conseguir derechos de uso exclusivo sobre dichas imágenes y está en nuestra mano, utilizando las armas que el Estado pone a nuestra disposición, evitar que esa ilícita apropiación se perpetúe.

Más información en https://bitboydefense.org/

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[English]

We announce the bitboydefense project to defend the free use of the images created by the user "Bitboy" in 2010, which have become the "official" logos of Bitcoin.

There are individuals attempting to gain exclusive usage rights over these images, and it is in our hands —using the legal tools provided by the state— to prevent this unlawful appropriation from being legitimized.

More information at https://bitboydefense.org/

Entiwndo en principio vuestra causa, pero qué casos de usurpación podéis mencionar al respecto?

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# The case against edits

Direct edits are a centralizing force on Nostr, a slippery slope that should not be accepted.

Edits are fine in other, more specialized event kinds, but the `kind:1` space shouldn't be compromised with such a push towards centralization, because [`kind:1` is the public square of Nostr, where all focus should be on decentralization and censorship-resistance](cd8ce2b7).

- _Why?_

Edits introduce too much complexity. If edits are widespread, all clients now have to download dozens of extra events at the same time while users are browsing a big feed of notes which are already coming from dozens of different relays using complicated outbox-model-based querying, then for each event they have to open yet another subscription to these relays -- or perform some other complicated batching of subscriptions which then requires more complexity on the event handling side and then when associating these edits with the original events. I can only imagine this will hurt apps performance, but it definitely raises the barrier to entry and thus necessarily decreases Nostr decentralization.

Some clients may be implemneted in way such that they download tons of events and then store them in a local databases, from which they then construct the feed that users see. Such clients may make edits potentially easier to deal with -- but this is hardly an answer to the point above, since such clients are already more complex to implement in the first place.

- _What do you have against complex clients?_

The point is not to say that all clients should be simple, but that it should be simple to write a client -- or at least as simple as physically possible.

You may not be thinking about it, but if you believe in the promise of Nostr then we should expect to see Nostr feeds in many other contexts other than on a big super app in a phone -- we should see Nostr notes being referenced from and injected in unrelated webpages, unrelated apps, hardware devices, comment sections and so on. All these micro-clients will have to implement some complicated edit-fetching logic now?

- _But aren't we already fetching likes and zaps and other things, why not fetch edits too?_

Likes, zaps and other similar things are optional. It's perfectly fine to use Nostr without seeing likes and/or zaps -- and, believe me, it does happen quite a lot. The point is basically that likes or zaps don't affect the content of the main post at all, while edits do.

- _But edits are optional!_

No, they are not optional. If edits become widespread they necessarily become mandatory. Any client that doesn't implement edits will be displaying false information to its users and their experience will be completely broken.

- _That's fine, as people will just move to clients that support edits!_

Exactly, that is what I expect to happen too, and this is why I am saying edits are a centralizing force that we should be fighting against, not embracing.

If you understand that edits are a centralizing force, then you must automatically agree that they aren't a desirable feature, given that if you are reading this now, with Nostr being so small, there is a 100% chance you care about decentralization and you're not just some kind of lazy influencer that is only doing this for money.

- _All other social networks support editing!_

This is not true at all. Bluesky has 10x more users than Nostr and doesn't support edits. Instagram doesn't support editing pictures after they're posted, and doesn't support editing comments. Tiktok doesn't support editing videos or comments after they're posted. YouTube doesn't support editing videos after they're posted. Most famously, email, the most widely used and widespread "social app" out there, does not support edits of any kind. Twitter didn't support edits for the first 15 years of its life, and, although some people complained, it didn't hurt the platform at all -- arguably it benefitted it.

If edits are such a straightforward feature to add that won't hurt performance, that won't introduce complexity, and also that is such an essential feature users could never live without them, then why don't these centralized platforms have edits on everything already? There must be something there.

- _Eventually someone will implement edits anyway, so why bother to oppose edits now?_

Once Nostr becomes big enough, maybe it will be already shielded from such centralizing forces by its sheer volume of users and quantity of clients, maybe not, we will see. All I'm saying is that we shouldn't just push for bad things now just because of a potential future in which they might come.

- _The market will decide what is better._

The market has decided for Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and TikTok. If we were to follow what the market had decided we wouldn't be here, and you wouldn't be reading this post.

- _OK, you have convinced me, edits are not good for the protocol. But what do we do about the users who just want to fix their typos?_

There are many ways. The annotations spec, for example, provides a simple way to append things to a note without being a full-blown edit, and they fall back gracefully to normal replies in clients that don't implement the full annotations spec.

Eventually we could have annotations that are expressed in form of simple (human-readable?) diffs that can be applied directly to the post, but fall back, again, to comments.

Besides these, a very simple idea that wasn't tried yet on Nostr yet is the idea that has been tried for emails and seems to work very well: delaying a post after the "submit" button is clicked and giving the user the opportunity to cancel and edit it again before it is actually posted.

Ultimately, if edits are so necessary, then maybe we could come up with a way to implement edits that is truly optional and falls back cleanly for clients that don't support them directly and don't hurt the protocol very much. Let's think about it and not rush towards defeat.

Sorry for the comment repetition just now, highlighter mess my comment up. It is not working properly.

GM, BTC at 100k. Stay working on freedom software :)